Connected on 2014-10-24 14:30:00
from Windsor County, Vermont, United States
- 1:32 pm
- Bugscope Teamsample is in 'scope and 'scope is pumping down
- 1:42 pm
- 1:47 pm
- 1:53 pm
- 2:00 pm
- 2:07 pm
- 2:13 pm
- Bugscope TeamPennBug!
- Bugscope TeamHello!
- Bugscope TeamWelcome to Bugscope!
- 2:18 pm
- Bugscope Teamfurry bacteria
- Bugscope TeamWe're currently setting up the 'scope for this afternoon's session.
- 2:24 pm
- Bugscope TeamHey, hey! Welcome!
- Bugscope TeamHello BRAT!]
- Bugscope Teamd'oh
- Bugscope TeamYay!
- Bugscope Teamthis millipede has a mite on it, kind of cool
- Bugscope Teamwe are ready to roll
- Bugscope TeamBRAT has control
- Bugscope Teamplease let me know when you have questions
- Bugscope Teamlet us know, that is
- Bugscope Teamand please also let us know if you have trouble driving
- Bugscope Teamsome presets worked nicely and some were kind of lackadaisical
- Bugscope Teamwe are here to help and to answer questions
- Bugscope TeamBRAT has the ability to drive, by clicking on the screen to get the image to center at that point, or change the mag, or select a preset
- 2:30 pm
- TeacherWe're back, I think I had to log in as Kelly
- Bugscope Teamwe can confer control of the 'scope to anyone else as well
- Bugscope TeamLooks like you have control. Mite!
- TeacherHoly cow...this is so cool!
- Bugscope Teamif you take the mag lower, as you wish, you can see where you are
- Bugscope TeamScott is tweaking the focus a bit for you.
- TeacherSorry, I'm zooming too fast to focus, aren't I?
- Bugscope Teamno all good
- Bugscope TeamYou're ok. He got it.
- Bugscope TeamYou can tweak the focus too. Scott just gets impatient sometimes when it is something he can fix. :)
- Bugscope TeamI'm sitting at the microscope, so I can tweak the fine focus for you.
- Bugscope TeamDaniel types 11 times faster than I do.
- TeacherHahaha, I'm a fast typer, too.
- TeacherThose hairs help the milipede sense where it is?
Bugscope Teamthat and smell and taste and sense hot/cold
- Bugscope TeamMost likely yes. The setae (what you refer as hair) are used to detect surroundings, either mechanically or chemically depending up the type of setae.
- Bugscope TeamWhoops. Meant to send that as a reply, not a new message.
- Bugscope TeamDaniel does two sentences while I'm looking at my fingers on the keyboard.
- Bugscope Teamnot much point in leaving your head exposed
- TeacherIs the mite in the curled-up head area or is that the tail?
Bugscope TeamHead. I asked hte same question.
Bugscope TeamI wasn't around for sample prep, so I didn't get to see it before Scott put it in the scope.
- 2:35 pm
- TeacherThis is SO cool, we collected these bugs in our own river just a few weeks ago...NO idea how cool they'd look this close up.
Bugscope TeamYou collected a lot of other things too, that I bet you weren't aware of. There are samples of bacteria, fungi, and diatoms here too.
- Bugscope TeamKelly how does it happen that the millipede has diatoms on it?
Bugscope Teammaybe it's because they were all in the same liquid together?
- Bugscope Teamsilica-shelled single-celled alga
- TeacherSay THAT 10 times fast!
- Teachersilica-shelled single-celled...I can't evey type it correctly.
- Bugscope Teamdiatoms can be found in dirt as well
- Bugscope Teamnear reevers
- Bugscope Teamnow you can see the gills
- TeacherWhat ARE diatoms, I'm feeling like a little kid at Christmas right now.
Bugscope TeamThey are a type of algae.
Bugscope TeamThey are known for their complex, and very beautiful, silicon shells that they create.
Bugscope TeamThey're found world-wide, in both fresh and salt water.
Bugscope TeamThey're very useful to geologists because if they are found in a soil sample, that is indicative of a wet environment, hence a lost lake or sea.
- TeacherLOL!!!! Land quarters!!!!
- Bugscope TeamWater Pennies are a type of beetle - as larvae they are aquatic and as adults they live on land
Bugscope Teamthey become land quarters
- 2:40 pm
- TeacherDo they really have a terrestrial stage of their lify cycle?
Bugscope Teamyes :)
Bugscope Teamthis is beneficial because now larvae and adults don't compete for food
Bugscope Teamtheir carapace closes and eventually they become red-eared turtles
Bugscope TeamI felt the same way when I moved out and didn't have to compete with my little brother for food...
- Bugscope Teamthis is one of its paws
- TeacherCan we scoot to the whirligig beetle?
Bugscope TeamI may have to drive directly
Bugscope TeamWhirligig beetle are my favorite beetle
Bugscope TeamThere's something not quite right about the whirligig preset. Go to the whirligig tarsi first, then zoom out.
- Bugscope Teamyou can see tenent setae and the claw
- TeacherWhat the heck are the little mushroom-looking things??
Bugscope Teamtenent setae; they help them cling to surfaces
Bugscope Teamhouseflies have setae like that as well
- Bugscope Teamyou can take the mag way down to see the rest of the whirligig beetle when you are ready
- TeacherNot mushrooms, they look like little trumpets...
- Bugscope Teamonce you get to a lower mag you can click to center
- TeacherThat gets cooler and cooler...
Bugscope TeamThis thing looks like it has the weirdest hairdo ever.
- TeacherMatt says it looks like the Statue of Liberty's crown. Sort of.
- Teacherhehe, or the weirdest hairdo ever! Like a muppet.
Bugscope TeamOr a minion.
- Bugscope TeamThey have split eyes so that they can see under water and above water clearly
- Bugscope Teamcool fact about whirligig beetles is that they have a split eye! Their regular compound eyes split into 2 so they have 4 eyes - two on each side, one below the water for looking for prey in the water and one above looking for predators
- 2:46 pm
- TeacherYes, Joe & TJ! That is so right and just one of the great things about these...
- Bugscope Teamyou can kind of make out the split eye here
- Bugscope Teamsome earwigs have split eyes as well
- TeacherSo much "hair"....the whirligig also takes a water bubble down to the bottom to breathe, so I bet the hairs help "hold" the air bubble.
Bugscope Teamprobably not the hair in this part, they actually trap the air under the elytra as adults.
- TeacherI wonder if those little cups on the ends of the "paws" help with suction for some reason?
Bugscope Teammost likely so they don't get sucked away when they want to be stationary? they tend to be in water that is constantly flowing
- Bugscope TeamI don't actually go outside much, unless it's to scurry from building to building
- TeacherScott, I didn't want to know that about earwigs. Like, ever. ;-)
Bugscope Teamthey are super fun for us, plus they also have mites
- TeacherThat's what we were thinking...
- Bugscope Teamthese are spiracles, as far as I can tell; I think they're there because the mp was in the same liquid as the water type dudes
- Bugscope TeamI mean that is why the canoes are there...
- 2:51 pm
- TeacherThe anemone-looking things...those aren't cilia, are they?
Bugscope Teamwe could call them cilia; in this case they are part of the filtration apparatus that keeps the spiracle from sucking in dust
- TeacherThese are diatoms in a what? Spiracle? That's a breathing hole, right?
Bugscope TeamThe diatoms are the large, canoe-shaped structures.
Bugscope TeamPerhaps I should have said coffin-shaped structures, given the season.
- TeacherHah, Mo says "oh, like nose hairs."
- Teacherhah. Hey, is that the Macenfish family??
- Bugscope TeamScotts twerking the image...
- Bugscope TeamThese ones are pennate diatoms.
- TeacherScott, stop twerking. :-)\
- GuestIt sure is! This is awesome!
- TeacherAnd we can keep checking this whole session out for years, they archive it.
- TeacherWhat is that weird log-thing to the left side of the spiracle?
Bugscope Teamsome kind of juju
Bugscope TeamAre you referring to the brigher object, at about 8 o'clock?
- TeacherOh, right, "juju"...I remember that. It's a technical term, right? ;-D
Bugscope TeamYes. Very.
- TeacherHi, Pennbug...who is that? :-) This is a breathing-hole in a stonefly, I believe?
- GuestSo what insect are we actually seeing right now?
Bugscope Teamthis is a millipede, an arthropod
- TeacherOH, the mililpede, not the stonefly.
- 2:56 pm
- Bugscope TeamDiatoms are the coolest and weirdest. Most of them have an obligate sexual phase.
Bugscope Teamlike college students
- Bugscope TeamYes. That's dirt. Yes indeedy.
- Bugscope Teamconfirmed dirt
- TeacherOoooh, who knew millipedes were so filthy?
- Bugscope TeamDirt dirt dirty dirt dirt.
- Bugscope TeamNo point in looking longer.
- Bugscope TeamThere is a lot of things to see. Keep exploring.
- GuestLeilani says she is scarred for life now
- Bugscope Teamoops gang signs
- TeacherI wanna see the dragonfly mouth!
- TeacherHehehe, who else wants to steer?
Bugscope TeamGo for it...
Bugscope TeamLots of interesting presets today.
- TeacherLeilani....hahah! Bugs are SO cool!
- GuestThat mouth is so CUTE!!!
- TeacherThis is the dragonfly...
Bugscope TeamThere you go. Those are eyes to the right and left.
- TeacherDragonflies have a lower jaw that shoots out like an alien, grabs its prey in a vise, and hauls it back to be eaten. :-)
- TeacherJay Leno has NOTHING on these guys. ;-)
- GuestOkay.....the girls are won over now!
- Bugscope Teamit's funny because when they grow up their heads are poorly attached to their thoraces
Bugscope Teamtoo much eye for their own good.
- Bugscope Teamkind of like Jay Leno with that super long jaw
Bugscope Teamhahaha. they have a one up on Jay Leno, theirs is extendable like in Aliens
Bugscope Teamyou beat me to that Joe!
- TeacherThe girls see any of the thumbnail images they want to look at closer?
- TeacherPennbug -- who is Pennbug? :-)
- 3:01 pm
- GuestYes, roly poly please
- Bugscope Team these are some fungi Daniel found in a basket that looks like a mite carapace
- Bugscope Teamfungal hyphae
- Teacher"Mystery stuff"....any ideas?
Bugscope TeamI put that there. I assumed they were fungi.
- TeacherThese are creatures we found in the Black River a few weeks ago, for you newcomers.
Bugscope TeamThis is a pretty clean river!
- TeacherThanks, Joe -- it's hard to get that across to people.
- TeacherDragonfly foot!!!!
- TeacherIt's like a grappling-hook!
- TeacherTJ, hehe...
- Bugscope Teamyou can see that it does not have a pulvillus, at least not here
- Bugscope TeamHmmm. My chat appears to have goofed up a bit.
- TeacherThere is a fungus amongus?
Bugscope Teamsomething for everyone
Bugscope TeamYes there is I've heard that Scott is a Fungi ;)
Bugscope TeamDo you people know my dad??? Better jokes please!
- TeacherWhat: you can see that it does not have a pulvillus?
- Bugscope Teamthe pulvillus is the pad that has the tenent setae on it; some beetles have several of them
- Bugscope Teamsometimes the pulvillus is between the claws
- 3:06 pm
- TeacherThanks, Scott.
- Bugscope Teamlike in Spanish tener and in Latin
- TeacherSee what I did there?
- Bugscope Teamsee no sticky pads; no wonder they rarely land
- TeacherWow, those are some "tenacious" hooks!
Bugscope Teamsame root!
- Teacher"Tenent setae"? I know setae are the "hairs" that help bugs feel and sense their surroundings...
Bugscope Teamtenent means they hold
Bugscope TeamThese are there to increase the surface area that is touched. I think the adhesive stuff is made elsewhere.
- TeacherThey don't just stand here or there, dragonflies "perch" in a grasping hold.
- Bugscope Teamthese are like vorticella, and behind them are bacteria
- TeacherROLY POLY for the Macenfish girls! Coming up.
- Bugscope Teamalso now we are looking at a kind of gills, right?
- Bugscope Teamhaha librarian
- Bugscope Teamyou can barely see one of the compound eyes, to the right
- TeacherRoly poly looks a lot creepier this close!
- TeacherPolka dots!
- Bugscope Teamthis one has super nice mouthparts and also antennae
- 3:11 pm
- Bugscope Teamgenetically - Rolypoly are actually more related to Crabs than they are to insects
Bugscope TeamI don't thnk they have much meat on them, though
- TeacherAww, bye! But who are you, Pennbug?
- GuestThanks that was cool, bye!
Bugscope TeamThank you, PennBug!
- TeacherI wouldn't want to collect enough of these to dip in butter!
- TeacherThis is a land-based bug...roly poly or pillbug, yes?
Bugscope TeamYes, though there are some really giant isopods living in the ocean that are about the size of two adult fists. They're also pearly white (and creepy). Of course, you can buy a smartphone case in that shape from some company in Japan...
- TeacherCan we zoom in to see the spiracles on this?
Bugscope Teamnever seen spiracles on rps; they'll be high on the sides
- TeacherOkay, so what are these spots?
- TeacherSuction cups??
- TeacherNOT holes...what the heck are they?
Bugscope Teamthey're little sensory flaps, like leaves, I think
- Bugscope TeamWhere are we in relation to the whole body?
Bugscope Teamyo dude this is the head
- TeacherMatt thought they looked like scales...leaves is a great comparison. This is above the eyes, like the forehead?
- TeacherWhat do the girls think of this? :-0
- Bugscope Teamthis is a really well-preserved rolypoly
- Bugscope Teamyou can see its antlers now
- 3:16 pm
- TeacherOh, yeah...Mo thought that's what those are.
- GuestThey said it looks nothing like a roly poly
- TeacherI can zoom it out and they can see...
- TeacherHAHAHA....so that's NOT part of the bug.
Bugscope TeamUh, no. Sorry. :)
- Bugscope Teamsilver paint lower left
- Bugscope Teamwant me to show you the eye?
- GuestThank you!
- Bugscope Teamwe're looking off the edge of the stage, to the right
- TeacherSee the edge of the shell?
- Bugscope TeamYou can see one of the hexhead bolts on the right there.
Bugscope TeamOoops. Scott just corrected me. It is a torx screw.
Bugscope TeamDaniel is super trolerant.
Bugscope TeamI am not a troll.
- Bugscope Teamtolerant or trollerant -- one of those NYTimes Magazine words
- TeacherHehe, "trolerant"!
- 3:21 pm
- Bugscope Teamthere is part of the compound eye -- those three ommatidia
- GuestCool! Triple eye!
- Bugscope Teamoh i just remembered, isopods have that one species that destroys a fishes tongue and then just sits there eating some of the food as a parasite, right?
Bugscope TeamYes. Those are awesome.
Bugscope TeamThat's one word for that.
Bugscope TeamKeep your mouth closed while swimming, kids!
- TeacherThat's the eye of the roly poly???
Bugscope Teamyes it is, part of one of them
- TeacherI had no idea. Or eye-dea
- TeacherCaddisfly head!!!
- TeacherDaniel....too funny! I had someone ask me today if these things would crawl in your eyes, nose, ears while you were swimming. They have no interest in being on people I don't think; we move too much!
Bugscope Teamjust don't go outdoors
Bugscope TeamOr don't bathe.
- TeacherIs the opening actually the mouth?
Bugscope Teamyes but it has a lot of frilly stuff protecting it
- Bugscope Teamdo we get to see its housing?!
Bugscope TeamEmperor's new house, in this case.
- Bugscope Teamit has raptorial forelimbs
- 3:26 pm
- TeacherYup, and those are gills, I believe, not legs.
Bugscope Teaminsects run out of legs at six
- TeacherJoe, I love that! I've seen photos of that jewelry...wicked cool.
- GuestParasites are the scariest thing EVER! It is like the movie Alien come to life!
Bugscope TeamTry not to think of the ones living the PORES ON YOUR FACE RIGHT NOW!!!!! B)
Bugscope Teamfor sure. we work with the parasitoid wasp people too
- Teacherparasites do freak me out, too...this little caddis is a filter-feeder, helping to keep the river clear of floating detritus.
- TeacherOooh, you're helping the parasitoid wasp folks ID Emerald Ash Borers or something?
- GuestNot funny, Daniel...........lol
Bugscope TeamDemodex folliculorum
- TeacherYeah, Daniel's winning friends and influencing people today... ;-D
- GuestYup, my kind of bug.....a little filter!
- Bugscope Teamthis is cool -- little pitcher plants on the tail
- TeacherHaven't looked at the damselflyl yet...
- TeacherThese guys bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "bug eyes!"
- Bugscope Teamthis is a whateverfly larva
- TeacherDamselfly. ;-) Or "whateverfly."
- Bugscope Teamlike the dragonfly larva it has a super long jaw
- 3:32 pm
- TeacherLike feathers!!
- TeacherOkay, sharp feathers.
- Bugscope Teamso totally awesome
- TeacherDamselfly leg/foot/claw....
- Bugscope TeamMy guess would be to sense the flow of the water
- GuestWhat do those things do?
Bugscope Teamlikely they sense water flow, and perhaps some of them sense chemicals in the water
- Bugscope TeamScott's twerking again...
- TeacherWHOA....it's like an alien landscape!
- TeacherDo you lab guys want to steer for a while, take us to see anything you thought was interesting that we haven't seen yet?
Bugscope TeamScott was playing with it just to focus a bit. I think he's looking at juju now.
- TeacherMore diatoms in the background, those canoe-shaped things.
- TeacherThere. Just, wow.
- 3:37 pm
- TeacherYup, TJ...diversity and populous, that's what we want to see.
- TeacherSorry, diverse and populous.
- TeacherQuality and quantity.
- Bugscope TeamMr. Peanut.
- Teacher??? Corn chex?
- Bugscope TeamOops. Got a bit dark there. Sorry about that. I did that. :(
- Bugscope TeamScott is trying to think of something interesting to look at .
Bugscope TeamHe had something in mind but is trying to remember where it went since he didn't save it as a preset.
- TeacherThose aren't bacteria, are they?
- Teachermayfly tails, perhaps? That could be cool.
Bugscope TeamOk. We'll head to the mayfly.
- Bugscope Teammore diatoms.
Bugscope TeamI'd like to see more diatoms, is what i meant by that.
- TeacherAwesome!!! the mayfly head!
Bugscope TeamMoving to the mayfly booty.
- Bugscope TeamMayfly cerci
- Bugscope TeamOk. Here we are. If you zoom out or in, it will save this image in your database. (When Scott drives or makes changes, the images aren't recorded.)
- TeacherSome are gatherers and eat algae, others are predatory, I believe.
- Bugscope Teamwe can see where one of the three cerci is missing too bad it took me a week to type this
- TeacherMayflies generally have 3 tails, this guy might've lost one in transit to you or during collection or in the wild.
Bugscope TeamI think you can see where one broke off.
- 3:42 pm
- Bugscope Teamfrass
- GuestPoor bug -leilani
- TeacherYup, you can see the "socket" for the missign tail.
Bugscope TeamIt just couldn't wait to grow up.
Bugscope Teamadult mayflies have two cerci
- Teacherhehe, Leilani....
- TeacherIs that another diatom?
- TeacherSo pretty...
- TeacherArmando is here now, too -- we want to ask what this is?
Bugscope TeamScott is back on a diatom.
Bugscope TeamI like this one.
- Bugscope TeamHere's the inside of the chamber.
Bugscope TeamYou can see all your little critters on their backs.
- TeacherThat is so cool!!!
- Bugscope TeamIf you click on a preset, you can see the stage move.
Bugscope TeamWell, sort of. It was bit jerky.
- TeacherMacs, is there anything else you wanted to check out before we move to one or two more presets?
Bugscope TeamGoing back to the regular view.
- TeacherThanks, Joe!!
- Bugscope TeamOk, i have to head out. Bye!
Bugscope TeamThank you, Joe!!!
- TeacherThis is the "paw" or claw/foot of the whirligig beetle...
- GuestNo, thank you so very much! It was super awesome!
- 3:47 pm
- TeacherLittle suction cup structures...no idea these were part of a whirligig. Those bugs move SO fast!
- Bugscope Teamwhen we run the microscope for Bugscope we work far from the polepiece, where the electrons enter the chamber, so we can show you the specimens at low as well as high mag
Bugscope Teamit means we do not have the best resolution capability
Bugscope Teamthat is, we would achieve better resolution of the fine details if we were closer to the specimens
- TeacherScott, this is incredible...I'm having more fun that I've had in weeks. :-)
Bugscope TeamEven with the talk of tongue parasites and facial mites?
- TeacherOh, the Macs didn't see the millipede, either...
Bugscope TeamYou should go there now.
Bugscope TeamTHe images will be saved in the database for later viewing.
- TeacherThis is a MITE on one of the LEGS of the millipede!!! Just, wow.
- Bugscope Teamsee the mite, right in the center where it feels most comfortable
- TeacherDaniel, it's ALL good with me. :-D
Bugscope TeamHere is the millipede!
Bugscope TeamHead is in the upper left, curled up and hard to see.
- Bugscope Teamhttp://bugscope.beckman.illinois.edu/members/2014-057
- GuestLoL :)
- 3:52 pm
- TeacherMatt's mom is here for a moment...just wanted to show her what we've been up to.
- Bugscope TeamI think this type of mite does not have eyes
- TeacherSo many legs!
- GuestYou are cracking me up :) I love it! Lol
- GuestHe's just trying to bug me!
Bugscope TeamWho me? On the millipede here? I believe you mean I'm trying to arthropod you. Millipedes aren't bugs. B)
- TeacherIf I were that mite, living on that leg, I wouldn't want eyes, either!
- Bugscope Teamsometimes we see plant mites with double sets of eyes, and we can see that they are polarized
- TeacherAnother spiracle?
- Bugscope Teamwe're going to have to shut down to let Sang Yup use the 'scope now...
- Bugscope TeamBut this has been a lot of fun. Thank you, Everyone!
- GuestAwwwwwww :(
- TeacherThank you guys SO Much!
- TeacherThe kids had a blast, loved the mite and this shot of the spiracle...
- GuestNo thank you! This has been FANTASTIC!
- 3:57 pm
- Bugscope TeamMillipedes are vegetarians and their "counterpart" - centipedes are carnivorous
Bugscope TeamT.J. any thoughts on why millipedes are venomous? Is it purely defensive?
Bugscope TeamJust curious.
Bugscope TeamI don't think any are venomous actually
Bugscope Teamthey just have some that release chemicals on their body that people have allergic reactions to or chemical reactions to
- TeacherPlease thank Sang Yup again for giving us his time-slot!!
- Bugscope Teamwe will
- TeacherGood to know, TJ
- TeacherTake care, everyone! Macs, we'll see you Sunday!
- Bugscope TeamSee you, thank you!
- Bugscope TeamBye!
- GuestYup that's cool!
- Bugscope TeamBye!!!!!!!