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- Bugscope Teamvac ok, starting presets
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- Bugscope Teamhi guests, welcome to bugscope!
- Guestwhat exactly am i looking at?
- Guesthi
- Guesthowdy
- Bugscope Teamare you from the school? avon high school?
- Guestyo yo yo
- Guestyes
- Guestduh
- Guestyes
- Guestpizza
- Guestdon't make fun of my initials
- Bugscope Teamcool. where is your teacher? normally we prefer the teacher to login first, and then you all can login as students...
- Guestshes not on yet
- Guestshe's not logged in yet
- Guestwhat's up mags
- Guestnot much, yourself?
- Guestjust chillin
- Guestthat's cool
- Guestthat looks like a shoe1
- Guestoh yeah
- Bugscope Teampresets done, unlocking the session now
- Guestok
- GuestITS ALIVE
- Guestyour mom is alive
- GuestOMG
- Guestmy mom is dead
- Guestnot cool
- Guestthat sucks.
- Guestmy mom sucks
- Guestno
- Guestshe did suck
- Guestbyee.
- Guestbugscope sucks
- Bugscope Teamuh oh
- 10:31 am
- Guestwow.
- Guesthi
- Guesthey
- Guestuh oh what?
- Guestwat up?
- Bugscope Teamgood morning!
- Guestnothin
- Bugscope Teamwelcome to bugscope
- Bugscope Teamwelcome back
- Guesthola
- Guesthowdy
- Bugscope Teamrockscope today
- Guesthola back player
- Guestthanx, good to be back
- Bugscope Teambuenas dias
- Bugscope Teamamong diatoms
- Guestestoy moy bien
- Guestbaiser moi saussison
- Guesterzahlen mir nicht so einen mist bugscope!
- Guestyou guys are weird.
- GuestFU
- Guesttravis
- Guestwatch yourself.
- Bugscope Teammrs. krucina, do you have any questions? you have control of the scope.
- Guesttravis
- Bugscope Teamthis looks like a limestone sample with a lot of crinoid stems and shells on it
- Guestic
- Studenthola senorss.
- Guestneato
- Guestno
- 10:36 am
- Bugscope Teamwe can't go lower than about 60x mag, and it is hard to get perspective that way
- Guestwat is that
- Guestwat is that?
- Studentwhat are we looking at?
- Bugscope Teamif you select a preset you can see some of the areas we've already highlighted for you
- Guestwas ist dass? what is that?
- Guestyour dad
- Guestthe white thing
- Studentthat's awesome.
- Guestwat is that thing?
- Bugscope Teamthis is a lot of debris on the surface of the sample
- Bugscope Teamit might be some sort of plant material
- Guesttake off you pants and jacket
- Guestyes
- Studentthis is boring me.
- Guestmmm hmm
- Bugscope Teamthe sample has lots of unknown things on it, so we made the presets for you, we know what the presets are
- Bugscope Teamwe are finding a lot of diatoms, some pollen, some plant material, as Cate said, and even some brochosomes
- Guestare you kidding this is AMAZING!!!! :D
- Guestis that a fossil?
- Guestwhos scot he is smart
- Guestdoes it have bugs in it]
- Studentyou are weird, if you think this is amazing.
- Guestwat r brochosomes
- Guestwhats a buckyball?!!??!?!?!?
- Bugscope Teambrochosomes are tiny pellet-like bodies that resemble wiffleballs, in a way
- Guestwhat's that
- Guestoh cool
- Guesti see
- Guestwats this?
- Bugscope Teamthat looks pretty cool
- Studentwhat's a fullerene?
Bugscope TeamFullerenes are a family of carbon allotropes, molecules composed entirely of carbon, in the form of a hollow sphere, ellipsoid, tube, or plane. Spherical fullerenes are also called buckyballs, and cylindrical ones are called carbon nanotubes or buckytubes. (from wikipedia)
- Bugscope Teambuckyballs are carbon 60, and they are really too small for us to see
- Bugscope Teamthe submarine shaped things are diatoms
- Guestwhats the big thing on the left
- Guestoic
- Guestis that a diatom??????
- Guestwhat are diatoms?
- Guestwat is that it look a seed
- Studentwhat's the giant round thing?
- Bugscope Teamthat is a pollen grain
- Studentsweeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
- Bugscope Teamto the right is a diatom
- GuestWhats the giant thing with a dot in it?
- Guestcewl
- Studentgoooo calcite!
- Bugscope Teamjj that is a pollen grain, partly collapsed
- Guestis this stuff on me
- Guestohh mmmmmmmKaaay
- Guestso are there any shells?
Bugscope Teampreset #4 is a sea shell
- 10:41 am
- Guestthis looks like a mini moon or something
- Bugscope TeamMJS probably not, but you could get it on you if you were in the dirt
- Guestyea but i mean are there any shells other then the preset one?
- Studentthat looks like a shell
- Guestin regard of "yourmom" I'm sorry
- Guestwhats the circle thing in the center bottom?
- Guestwat is the white thing up top
- Bugscope TeamER there are more shells; it is just that we are so close it is hard to make out the shapes
- Guestwhat is the thing in the bottom left
- Guestwho is yourmom
- Guestmegan
- Studentno I'm not1
- Bugscope Teamanything that looks interesting you can magnify
- Student!*
- Guestthank u
- Guestwat is that thing in the middle?
- GuestWhat is the white thing that is pertruding at the bottom close to the middle?
Bugscope Teamwe arent sure what everything is, it looks like some sort of debris
- Bugscope Teamdiatoms comes in many different shapes, but most of them so far resemble canoes, or submarines
- Bugscope Teamthe teacher has control of the scope, she can try to find a shell and magnify it?
- Guestwhere do you think this rock originated
- Guestwhat is that thing on the right?
- GuestIs it possible that it is a leaf or something that has been cemented into the rock?
- Guesthow is this stuff so small?
- Studentdiatom!
- Bugscope Teamclearly this was once silt at the bottom of a river or lake, or ocean
- GuestScot is awesome
- GuestAW=lonely
- Guestagreed
- Bugscope Teamdo you all know where the sample came from?
- StudentI feel some tension between Scot and I.
- Bugscope Teamthere are LOTS of diatoms on this
- Bugscope TeamHey we are cool yourmom
- Studentthanks, that's good to know.
- Guestwuts it mean if theres a lot of diatoms?
- Bugscope Teamthis looks like a good area
- Guestwhat are these things?
- Bugscope TeamER it means the sample was in dirt, or in a lake or stream
- 10:46 am
- Guestwat would make the hole
- Guestthat thing on the left looks kinda like a space worm
- Guestic
- Studentit looks like a black hole of doooom.
- Bugscope Teammost of the things we see are diatoms, which are silica based
- Guestits a rock guys a rock
- GuestWhat is the white thing with the half circle opening?
- Guestpacman
- Bugscope Teamthey're the leftover shells of the diatom organisms
- Studentyou are my sunshineee.
- Guestno
- Guestcool!
- Guestwhat is the black and white objectat the bottom right
- Guestic
- Bugscope Teamteacher, focus can be tricky, if one direction doesn't work then go the other... there ya go, nice!
- GuestIS that a hole
- Bugscope Teamgreat job!
- Studentyaaaaay!
- Guestfailed
- Bugscope Teamnow the pacman-like thing looks like plant fiber
- Guestso the diatoms were living things at one point?
- Guestchemical analyisis?
- Studentdo you have a chemical analysis on our sample?
Bugscope Teamwe are going to have to do the x-ray analysis after the session is done because we have to set up the sample differently in the scope
- GuestHave you taken a chemical analysis on the sample?
- Bugscope TeamA.H. yeah
- Guestchemical analysis??????
- Guestpacman had too much fiber in his diet
- Guestneato
- Studentwhat is the sample composed of?
- Guestlol
- Guestwhy do you have to take an xray of it?
- Bugscope Teamwe will find that most of the sample is -- probably -- Ca C O.
- Guestthe who is good though
- Bugscope Teambut some silicon
- Guestyeah
- GuestI like the who
- StudentThe Beatles are better!
- Guestall time low is a joke
- Gueststop talking about bands
- Guestwho?
- Guestyessss
- Guestyes they are
- GuestWere you able to tell what any of the fossils were?
- StudentI like All Time Low
- Bugscope Teamwhen we use the electron beam to collect images, like now, we also produce x-rays
- GuestNirvana is the best
- Studentnope, The Beatles!
- Guestisnt that dangerous
- StudentI
- Guestguns n roses
- Studentany calcite grains in our sample?
- Guesthaha wow no
- Bugscope Teamand the x-rays have different energies depending on what element the electron beam hits
- GuestHave you found any calcite grains in our sample?
- GuestSie bitte wegen die Bands reden halten!
- StudentI AM BORED.
- Guestget over it
- Guestno your not
- Gueststop saluting u no who
- Studentyess, I am.
- 10:51 am
- Guestnope
- Studentthis is boring, and the paper is stupid.
- Guestno its not
- Studentshut up, Fluffy!
- Guesthow long does this paper have to b
- GuestNO!!!!!
- Bugscope Teamkasekopf the x-ray background is called bremsstrahlung -- braking radiation
- StudentI will hit you in your face, Fluffy
- Guesttravis
- Guestme
- Guestyoure a very violent person....
- StudentFluffy is sitting right next to me.
- Guesti know
- Guestno im not
- Studentwhen people annoy me, yes.
- Studentyou're a creeper!
- GuestHave you found any calcite grains within our sample?
- Guestwho ate some poisonous peanut butter
- Bugscope Teamwhat we will do is collect some x-rays and corresponding images after the session
- Bugscope Teami dont think we have found any calcite grains
- StudentI actually did.
- Guestwhats that white particle?
- Guestwhat is the white stuff in the middle
- Guestwhats the rock lookin thing in the bottom left
- Teacherwat is that white thing
- Guestwats that stuff?
- Guestwats the white thing in the middle, magic?
- Bugscope Teamjj and kk that is something that is charging up with electrons
- Guestyes its magic
- Guestok
- Teacherwat is that
- GuestO O O its magic
- Guestthanks
- Guestyou know
- Studentit jizzed.
- Guestno its not
- Guestwho is mjs?
- Guestdown
- Bugscope Teamit looks white because the electrons are hitting it and making it look like that -- the electrons cannot escape easily
- Guestmichael
- Guestno rocks are super!
- Guestall rocks super?
- Guestwheres them chrinoids?
- Guestwhat are chrinoids?
Bugscope Teamthey are small marine animals, part of the Echinoderms
Bugscope Teamthey are also known as sea-lilies and are a type of marine animal
- Bugscope Teamthis is huge sample, and we have been looking at only a small part of it
- 10:56 am
- Guestthats cute
- Guestyummy
- Guesti think buckyballs are cool =D
- Guestspace, the final frontier
- Studenthey Cate, can I have your number ;]
- Bugscope Teamsome crinoids are freeswimming and some are anchored to the substrate
- Guestwhat is that wheel thing
- GuestHave any fossils been found?
- Guestwaht geologic time are the chrinoids from?
- Bugscope Teamthat is a cross section of a crinoid stem
- Guestwhat time period was this found
- Guestwhat is the time period when the chrinoids lived?
- Guestwhen did these chrinoids live?
- Guestare there any crinoids alive or are they extinct?
Bugscope Teamthey are still around, just not as numerous as in other periods
- Studentpretty sure they're extinct.
- Guestandrew=quiet
- Guestis cate a cutie
- Studentsince it's a rock.
- Bugscope Teamteacher, all the images and chat from this session are saved to your bugscope member page, so you can review this session afterwords and find images of different things you might be looking for. http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-136
- Teacherwat time
- Guestwhen were they numerous???
- Bugscope Teamthey are (Wikipedia) said to have died out, for a time, in the Permian
- Guesty did they die out
- Guestwikipedia isnt a good source
- Guestis wikipedia really a false website
- Guestis there any way of knowing when these are from
- Guestyea
- Studentwhat environment to crinods live in?
Bugscope Teamthey live in both shallow water, but also very deep too
- Guestwhere can they be located? allover the ocean or like in freshwater places?
- Studentcrinoids*
- Guestby these i mean chrinoids
- Bugscope TeamThat is why I qualified what I was saying -- Wikipedia is frequently not altogether correct ;)
- Guestshallow or ocean floor
- Teacherwhy a sea shell
- Bugscope Teamthis was part of the sample
- Guest;) fresh or salt water?
Bugscope Teami'm not sure, but i would guess both
- Guestdo crinoids originate in salt water or fresh water
- Bugscope Teamsalt water
- Guestwikipedia is right
- Guestthanks
- 11:01 am
- Guest omg
- Guestplease identify the shell
- Guestcan you identify the shell?
- Studentmy name is cooler than yours.
- Bugscope Teamwhen it says 'marine,' that is salt water
- Bugscope Teamok, thanks scott!
- Guestno its not
- Gueststudying rocks is for bozo the clown
- Guestmmmk thank you
- Guestmy friends a marine
- Guestim more mature than you
- Studenthe lives in salt water.
- Guestno andrew isnt aw
- Bugscope TeamI am sorry we cannot identify the shell
- Guestoh thats ok....
- Studentwell maybe you should try harder.
- Bugscope Teamwhoa cool
- Bugscope Teamback there
- Guestcool back where?
- Guestback where?
- Studenttry left of rright.
- Guestyour west or mine?
- Guestit's a bunny with sun glasses
- Bugscope Teamwe went by one of those -- a little further
- Guestkeep going
- StudentI love potato chips.
- Guestnobodys your sunshine
- Student=)
- Bugscope Teamthere -- niec!
- StudentI'm my own sunshine.
- Bugscope Teamoops nice!
- GuestA BUCKEY BALL!!!!!!!!!
- GuestYEPPP
- Bugscope Teama cool little pollen grain
- Guestwhats that thing on the left
- Guestandrew do you have a brother thats in scouts?
- Guestare those diatoms?
Bugscope Teamyes all the submarine-shaped things are diatoms, we havent really seen any other shape on her other than that
- Bugscope Teamwe called it a buckyball because of its pattern
- Bugscope Teamyes!
- Guesttravis stop it
- GuestHIgh Five scot
- Guestyay! =D
- Guestcyber five
- Bugscope TeamCJP the fossils we could identify the most are the crinoid stems
- Guestthank you
- GuestHow can u tell that ists a she
- Guestfocus in better
- 11:06 am
- Guestthat's better
- Bugscope Teamisn't that cool-looking?
- Guestwhats that?
- Studentwhat is that?
- Guestis that a buckyball on the top right
- Guestyea wat is it
- Guestthe little thing on the diatom, is that debri as well?
- Bugscope Teamthis is just the shell of the original little dude
- Guestyeah
- Guestwhats on top of the diatom?
- Guestwat dude?
- Bugscope Teamyes CJP we think that is just debris
- Guestwe ant hippies
- Guestwhat exactly is juju? same as debri?
- Bugscope Teamyep, same thing CJP
- Guestis that a pollen grain at the top right
- Bugscope Teamjust our term for it
- StudentI'm a hippie!
- Bugscope TeamCJP that is about it
- GuestI think I'm allergic to that stuff
- Guestno your not
- Bugscope TeamStillsmackin we are not sure what the round things are, like that
- Guestso if this came from the bottom of the ocean how did the pollen get there
Bugscope Teamwell, lots of things not from the ocean have found their way onto this sample, there are some brochosomes as well, which are only from the leafhopper...
- GuestWhat are the little holes in the diatom for?
- Guestyes I am
- Guestnot you mjs
- Guestyeah
- Guestthose are weird
- Guestwhats the doughnut lookin thing?
- Guestwhats the taco shell thing?
- Guestwhats a leafhopper?
- Studentis that a cherrio?
- Guestthat right there what is that
- Guestleafhopper?
- Bugscope Teamwhat was really a surprise to us was finding brochosomes, which are supposed to come exclusively from leafhoppers
- StudentCheerio*
- Guestwhat is a leafhopper?
- Guestit a fossiled donut guys
- Guestyea whats a leafhopper
Bugscope Teamyou've seen leafhoppers, they are part of the family Cicadellidae, and they feed on plant leaves, they can have large wings and cool colors...
- Guestya
- Guestwhat iz that?
- Guestat the far right center of the screen, is that a shell?
- Guestso theyre cicadas!?!?!?!
- 11:11 am
- Studenta Cicada?
- Bugscope TeamCJP sorry we missed it
- Guestso this could have come from like a shalow sea somwhere
- Guestor butterflys!
- Guestmabe around like rees and what no
- Guesttrees**
- Bugscope Teamno that is just the family name, cicadas and leafhoppers are both true bugs
- Guestok thankyou
- Guestdo hey resemble praying mantis'?
Bugscope Teamnot really, praying mantis is more stick like, leafhoppers are fatter. here's a picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Graphocephala_coccinea_6.jpg
- Bugscope Teamleafhoppers are usually small and green and you can see them hopping in the plants
- Studentoh the little tiny bugs?
- Guestso this sample most likely came from a shallow ocean?
- Studenthow did a leafhopper get into a rock from the ocean?
- GuestThanXX
- Bugscope Teamhemiptera
- Bugscope Teamyourmom that is a good question
- GuestI have my mouth pierced
Bugscope Teamwell, not that kind of piercing! heh, good one though...
- Guestwhat would you do for a klondike bar
- Studenta lot of things
- Guestsry ms krucina
- GuestWhat is the white puff?
- GuestIn the center of the screen, is that debri/juju as well?
- Bugscope Teamwe think the fossil must have been around leafhoppers at some later point in time -- recent
- Guestso this sample most likely came from a shallow ocean?
- Guesti would love a klondike bar
- Guesthow long have leafhopers been around?
Bugscope Teami don't know, sorry, but they are a very diverse species so that might mean they've been around for a long long time
- Guestso if ther are bugs in here is it safe to assume this rock came from a shorline closet otrees or somthing
- StudentI WANT A KLONDIKE BAR, NOW!
- Studentbreak me off a piece of that kit kat bar ;]
- Guestit's italy
- Guestwat is that
- Guestwhat are we looking at
- Guestso this sample most likely came from a shallow ocean?
- Studentit looks metallic
- TeacherWAT IS THAT
- Guestinteresting thanks
- GuestWHAT IS THAT!!!????
- 11:17 am
- Studentwould you really?
- Bugscope Teamits something that is being affected by the electron beam
- Bugscope Teamthis is something that did not get coated well
- Bugscope Teamlike grease or some other kind of juju
- Guestis the electron beam dangerous
- GuestWould it be safe to say that this sample came from a shallow body of water that could have been close to water because of there being bugs? or even a swamp area?
- StudentCate, so how about that number? ;]
- Guesti would break you of a piece of that kit kat bar cate
- Guestis that fractured bone??
- Bugscope TeamCJP I think this sample has a recent history as well
- Bugscope Teami bet alex would rather give you his number
- GuestIs this a fractured bone?
- Guestare there any dinosaur bones?
- Studenthaha, Alex can I have your number? ;]
- Guestrecent history?
- Bugscope TeamCJP this not likely bone but some kind of shell
- Guestby recent you mean?
- Guestcreeper=megan
- Guestis there any bone in this ?
- StudentI'm just kidding, gosh, cam down.
- Guestno
- Studentit's MEGHAN.
- Student*
- Bugscope TeamA.H. and Stillsmackin I mean in the last few years it must've been sitting under a bush or somewhere in the open, outdoors
- Bugscope Teamteacher, we drove off the edge, i've fixed it, you should now have control again...
- Guestdo you mean recent as in last 20 million years
- StudentAW=STFU!
- Bugscope TeamMJS we have not see bacteria on it. We could if they were there.
- Guestjeepers creepers
- Guestoh so like the pollen and bugs came from the rock being exposed to like a bush or somthing
Bugscope Teamyes, totally
- Guestsaweeeet
- Bugscope Teambut this is your sample, you tell us where you found it!!!
- Teacherwat is that
- Guestyell at meghan ms krucina, shes not being professional
- Studentlike, omg gag me with a spoon!
- Bugscope Teamrod-shaped bacteria -- the bacilli -- like anthrax -- are about 2 microns long
- Guestthe kid who found it isnt here...
- Bugscope Teamthis is carbon tape we put your sample on
- 11:22 am
- StudentAW is a snitch.
- Guestoic
- Guestis there any way to tell how long is been out of the water
Bugscope Teamthat is a good question, but i don't know, maybe scott or cate have an idea?
- Bugscope TeamCJP we have not seen any yet
- Guestwoah
- Bugscope Teamwe would have to be at a preety high mag to be able to see bacteria
- GuestSo how much of our sample has fossils in it
- Guestwould you know what type of bush or tree it might have been located by?
- Guestwhere was this entire piece from?
- Bugscope TeamAW it looks like a large percentage of the sample is an accretion or aggregation of fossils.
- Guestdid we go off the edge again
Bugscope Teamvery close, but your teacher caught it and now we are back to the sample
- Bugscope Teamwhen we see the diatoms, brochs, pollen, etc., that is stuff that has gotten into the cracks within the last several years
- Guestwhat are some index fossils in this sample that we could use to help date it
- Bugscope Teamcrinoid
- Guestwhere was this entire piece from?
- Guestok cool, good job jeff
- Guestwhat general age would those give us
- Guestright on jeff
- Guesthow old do you think our rock sample is?
- Studentwould we be able to find bacteria on this rock?
- Guesthow old is this rock?
- Guestbillions and billions of years
- 11:27 am
- Guestyou don't know
- Guesti c
- Guestyea how old is it?
- GuestCould you give us an approximate geological time period
- Guestshe dont know
- Guestoh ok I was just wondering
- Guestso these shells were in a more recent goelogical time period then
- Guestsay about 20 mya
- Guestwe are about to go to lunch you guys have a good day
- Bugscope TeamAH you could be right -- I think it'
- Guestthats not too far back
- Guestyea thanx
- Bugscope Teamis the sea shells that would help you get a more recent date
- GuestIs this more debri/juju?
- Studentyay, lunch.
- Studentpeace out!
- Guestcoool thank you kindly
- GuestBYE!!!!
- Guestso if i get on later at home i can look at it again?>
Bugscope Teamhttp://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-136
- Bugscope Teambye thanks joining us today
- GuestThank you for your help. It will help us with our paper.
- Bugscope Teamyou can go to the session page and look at the saved images that you saw today
- Bugscope TeamMrs. Krucina, all the chat and images from today's session are available on your bugscope members page: http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-136
- Bugscope TeamYou can go to your bugscope page and look this up later.
- Bugscope Teamdeus ex machina
- Teacherok Thank You
- Bugscope Teamfocus ex machina
- TeacherThank you for the session. Will you be posting the chemical analysis to the session?
- 11:32 am
- Bugscope Teamwe will probably email the spectra to you some time later
- Bugscope Teamwe will have to send that separately, with a link
- TeacherI would appreciate it.
- Bugscope Teamok, session disabled, rxl stopped, locked, see you