Connected on 2009-11-02 15:30:00
from Adel, IA, US
- 2:00 pm
- Bugscope Teamwe are setting up
- 2:06 pm
- 2:16 pm
- 2:22 pm
- Bugscope TeamHello K!
- Guestthank you
- Bugscope TeamK I am setting the presets up for the session that starts at 3:30 our time.
- 2:27 pm
- 2:38 pm
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- 2:51 pm
- 3:00 pm
- 3:08 pm
- Bugscope TeamHello!
- Bugscope TeamWe are done setting up for today. Let use know if you have questions or if you would like to drive.
- Bugscope TeamThis is a daddy longlegs.
- 3:14 pm
- Bugscope Teamand this is a pollen grain. to the south and west of it is a mold spore, partially deflated
- Bugscope Teamguest1 things usually don't start happening until the school logs on. so please let us know if you have any questions or want to see anything in particular on today's sample stage.
- Bugscope TeamMrsB!
- Bugscope TeamWelcome to Bugscope!
- 3:19 pm
- Bugscope Teamit works, doesn't it?
- TeacherGreeting. This is Laura from ADM. We're checking out the site before kids get in here.
- Bugscope Teamtotally cool
- Bugscope Teamdrive around and check things out, do what you would like
- Bugscope Teamthis is a pollen grain, like ragweed or something -- I think many of them look like this
- Bugscope Teamand below it we see see a sort of deflated mold spore
- Bugscope Teamyou can take the mag low low low to see where you are
- TeacherWhat's that embedded in?
- Bugscope Teamif you want
- TeacherWhat's that embedded in?
- Bugscope Teamit's on one of the limbs of the daddy long legs, so you see lots of setae (hairs)
- TeacherWe thought they looked like hairs -- we were right!
- Bugscope Teamyes of course we are supposed to call them setae or microsetae or trichae, etc.
- TeacherDo daddy long legs have pinchers? or are those mouth parts?
- Bugscope Teambut even entomologists will call them hairs
- Bugscope Teamthose are pinchers
- TeacherHow do we move the image around so we can look for the mouth?
- Bugscope Teamit's upside down -- this is the underside of the body
- 3:24 pm
- Teacherok - but can we move the image?
- Bugscope Teamif you use click to center, that's the best way
- Teacheror just zoom?
- Bugscope Teamactivate click to center, and then put your mouse on the image and click to get the 'scope to move to that region
- Bugscope TeamI think the deal is that we cannot see the mouth
- Teacherok, that's working for us
- Teachercan we take pictures of these?
- Bugscope Teamclick to drive is hard to use
- Bugscope Teamall of the images you see now are saved
- Bugscope Teamfor you in your school's database
- Bugscope Teamhttp://bugscope.beckman.illinois.edu/members/2009-101/
- Teacherdid we send in this specimen?
- Bugscope Teamso the trick now is to drive around as much as you like and everywhere you go will be saved
- Bugscope Teampretty sure it was one you sent; Cate mounted them and I think she's on her way home now
- Bugscope Teamyou can see the Edge of the World here
- TeacherDo we have "visitors" that are watching us? Can they ask questions or comment?
- Bugscope Teamthere was a guest on who signed on as guest1, but she/he was silent
- Bugscope Teamthey can comment, ask questions
- TeacherWhen the kids get here in a few minutes, how do they log in?
- Bugscope Teamsometimes we have to let them know that it is your session we're running
- 3:29 pm
- Bugscope Teamthe kids should be able to log in to the Bugscope page -- the first page. and they should be able to select Student rather than Teacher
- TeacherDo our kids just go to the Bugscope website? Where do they go from there?
- TeacherWe have 20 kids staying after school to do this -- they are excited!
- Bugscope Teamthe Bugscope website should read Lucky You on the right, and the software will recognize that the computers are from the same area as yours, so there should be no passwords now
- Bugscope TeamSounds great!
- TeacherWe're ready and waiting for kids!
- Bugscope TeamCool. You may try any of the presets as well.
- Bugscope Teamclicking on one of the presets will drive you to that location on the stub
- TeacherThey may be tentative about asking questions -- maybe -- so you can tell them a few things about what they're seeing too.
- Bugscope Teamif it was high mag, sometimes the sample will have moved a bit
- Bugscope Teamhey no problem at all
- Teacherare these the feet?
- Bugscope Teamthese are the tiny sticky setae that help a ladybug or fly or other insect that has them walk on vertical surfaces
- Bugscope Teamthey are attached to the feet, usually
- 3:35 pm
- Bugscope Teamif you take the mag a little lower you may be able to see the claws
- Bugscope Teamthat *helps* them walk on vertical surfaces
- Bugscope Teamyou can see that the tips are spatulate
- Bugscope Teamthey're spread and sticky
- Bugscope Teamat high mag here it doesn't look so good -- we see charging because the electrons are not able to go to ground quickly
- TeacherAre these surfaces oily? What makes them sticky?
- TeacherIt may be a few minutes -- kids are here and are logging in.
- Bugscope Teamone of the entomologists says they have chemicals on them that make them stick
- Bugscope Teamlike some kind of oil, yes.
- Bugscope TeamCate Mrs B asked if they had sent the DLL.
- Bugscope Teamyes
- Bugscope TeamHi Bob, and Airborne, and Rosey, and Jordyn!
- Bugscope TeamAll of the instects are theirs
- Bugscope Teamand Grunt -- Hello!
- Bugscope TeamHi guys!
- Studentwhat am i looking at?
- 3:40 pm
- StudentWhat am i looking at?
- Bugscope Teamthis is part of the pulvillus on a ladybug's arm
- StudentWhat is this?
- Studenthi guys
- Bugscope Teamit is a pad of sticky setae that help the ladybug cling to vertical surfaces
- Studentis that feet?
- Studentwhat is setae?
Bugscope TeamSetae are basically bug hairs
- Studenthow many insects did you get?
Bugscope Teamwe got a lot of insects from you but could put only 10 or so on the stub
- Studentis that bacteria on it?
Bugscope TeamWe didn't see any bacteria on it
- StudentWhat is this?
Bugscope Teamyou can see one of the legs, the abdomen, the elytra, part of the wing
- StudentWhat are we looking at?
Bugscope Teamthis is the ventrum -- the underside -- of the ladybug
- StudentDo all bugs have hair?
Bugscope TeamYes, its how they sense whats around them
- Studentwhy does it look stringy
- TeacherI am going to switch pictures to a daddy long legs
- Studentdo you know how old the ladybug is?
- Studentis this hair?
Bugscope Teamthe stuff that looks like hair is tiny setae
- Studenthow big is the claw
Bugscope Teamthe claw is maybe 200 microns long -- one fifth of a millimeter
- Studentwhat is your favorite bug you got?
Bugscope Teamtoday either the DLL or the wasp
- StudentWhat are those flakes?
- StudentWhat is the flakey stuff?
- Studentwhat's the flaky stuff?
- Studentis there hair on the claw?
- Studentwhy is the claw so bumpy?
- Guestwhat is the claw for
Bugscope Teamalmost all insects and arthropods have claws
- 3:45 pm
- Studentis that a claw>
Bugscope Teamyes this is a single claw at the end of the daddylonglegs arm
- Bugscope Teamthey are sort of like fingers would be to use
- StudentWhat are those bumps
- Guestwhy does it have hair
Bugscope Teaminsects and other similar arthropods have exoskeletons, so it is like they are wearing armor. the setae help them sense their environment through that armor
- Bugscope Teamlike fingers would be to us, I should have said
- StudentIs that just dirt on the base of the hair?
- TeacherI'm switching do the daddy long legs pincers
- TeacherIs this the mouth or on the front legs?
Bugscope Teamit feeds the mouth
- Studentare tose claws?
- Studentwhat is that bump ?
- Studentwhat are the bumps?
Bugscope Teamthe bumps make it harder to bite, harder to bend, tougher, and they also camouflage the body so it does not reflect brightly in the light
- GuestAre the pincers harmful to humans
- TeacherDo they use these pincers for picking things up? or for eating other insects?
- Studentwhat do daddy long legs eat?
- StudentAre these its legs
- StudentAre daddy long legs carnivores?
- Studentwhat are the long furry things
Bugscope Teamthose are palps, on either side of the claws
- StudentWhat is all the area around the claws?
Bugscope Teamthis is the underside of the head, and it is hard for us to make out all of the features
- TeacherLet's look at the wasp compound eye.
- GuestI just joined. What are we looking at?
Bugscope Teamthat was a daddylonglegs
- Studentis that an exoskeleton?
- Bugscope Teamthis is the edge of the compound eye of the wasp
- StudentWHATS THE SPIKES
- Bugscope Teamto the right are ommatidia -- the eye facets
- StudentAre those jsut little cuts on the eyes where it divits in the middle of an eye?
- 3:50 pm
- StudentIs this the bug with the spiked back?
- Studentare those eyes?
- Studentare the spikes like eyelashes?
- Studenthow many eyes are there
Bugscope Teama few thousand
- StudentWhat is the ribbon thing?
Bugscope Teamthat is dust of some sort
- StudentWhats the long tube
Bugscope Teamabove? that is one of the antennae
- Studenthow many insects cod you get?
- Bugscope Teamnow we are looking at one of the jaws
- StudentWhere is this on the wasp?
- Guestwhy are we looking at the eye what is the little hair for
- Bugscope Teamthe jaws open like a gate, from side to side
- Bugscope Team8-10 insects on a stub
- StudentDid you guys get the bug with the spiked back on here?
Bugscope Teamthat was an assassin bug.
- Guestwhat is on its face
Bugscope Teamthe jaws and mouth, the eyes, the antennae, the forehead, which I think is called a frons
- Bugscope TeamI don't think it fit
- Studentwhat do you do with the bugs you get when you're done/
Bugscope Teamwe pitch them
Bugscope TeamWe have to throw them away. They will start to rot otherwise.
- StudentWhat happens to them then?
Bugscope Teamthey turn to dirt
- Bugscope Teamsometimes we save insects that looked super cool, and we keep them in a desiccator to prevent them from rotting
- TeacherLet's look at the praying mantis head
- StudentWhat is the coolest Bug youv'e had?
Bugscope TeamI like earwigs, when they have mites, and I like mosquitos when you can see the mouthparts
- StudentWhat is all the stringy stuff?
- StudentWill you guys keep the assasin bug?
- StudentWhy are the eyes so big?
- Guestwhat is the zome on and why does it look so different
Bugscope TeamIts on 44Xzzom right, you can see the magnification on the upper right corner
- 3:55 pm
- TeacherDo they have pincers? Is that what we're seeing?
- StudentIs the big cicle its eye
- Studentwhat are those long things ?
- StudentWhat's the biggest bug you ever got?
Bugscope Teamwe got a huge Jerusalem cricket the other day
- Studentdo they bite?
- Studenthow do they eat(kill) bugs?
Bugscope TeamThe grab them with their forlegs, and then chomp on them
- StudentWhat are the big things that look like elephant ears?
Bugscope Teamthe compound eyes
- Studentare those antenas
- StudentWhy is it so hairy?
Bugscope Teamthe hairs are sensory
- StudentHow long do they stay alive? (praing mantis)
- Studentwate is the thing in the middle?
- Bugscope TeamThe forelegs have spikes on them that make it easier for them to grab things
- StudentHow many eyes are in the Praying Mantis' compound eyes
- TeacherSo, do they see thousands of images at once?
- Studenthow far can they see?
Bugscope Teamprobably a few feet with good clarity
- StudentDo they have arms?
Bugscope Teampraying mantises? yes. all insects have six legs as adults
- StudentWhy do they have ears on their legs?
Bugscope Teamsome insects do, like I think it is grasshoppers or certain crickets. they larger spaces for sensory structures that pick up sound
- StudentWhy does a lacewing have a lace wing anyway?
- TeacherLet's look at the lace wing.
- StudentHow many buds are there in the world
- StudentWhat is this?
Bugscope Teamthis is a lacwing
- StudentHow many legs will they start with?
- TeacherAre the insect hairs sensitive to movement of air?
- StudentWhy does this look like a hand?
- Studentis that its head
- 4:00 pm
- StudentWhy does it have tube eyes?
Bugscope Teamit has 'normal
- Studentwere is the wing?
- TeacherWhere are the wings?
Bugscope Teamthe wings are folded here, on the left side of the body
- Studentwhat are the exghaust looking things
Bugscope TeamThose are the broken off antanae
- Bugscope Teamthey're larger spaces
- StudentWhy do they have a lace wing?
- StudentWhat are lacewings?
- TeacherAre there veins in the wings?
- StudentWhy do they have lace wings?
- Studentwhate happend to the wings?
- StudentWhat r we looking at
- TeacherDO they carry fluid?
Bugscope Teamthe wings have some fluid in them -- some hemolymph.
- Studentwhat part of the bug is this?
Bugscope Teamthis is the abdomen and the ends of the wings
- Bugscope Team'normal' eyes
- Studentis that it wing
- Studentdo they have a tail?
- Studentwhat are the circles?
- StudentIs that a tail?
- TeacherWhat's that object that is hooked a bit?
Bugscope Teamwow I am not sure
- StudentIs that a pincher?
- StudentHow many bugs are there in the world?
- StudentWhat bug is this from
- StudentWhy do the bugs have lace wings
- Studentis that its leg
- StudentWhat are lacewings?
- TeacherThat's scary looking!!
- Studentare thoes spikes?
Bugscope TeamSetae, this is basically the breathing hole for the true bug
- Studentwhat are the oval things on its abdomen
- StudentWhy do they have lace wings?
- Studentwhar are the cicles around the hair?
- Studentis there bacterea on it?
Bugscope Teamnot that we could see
- Bugscope Teamlike a nostril
- StudentWhy are hair called cetay?
- StudentAre lace wings carnivores?
- TeacherIf those setae break off, do they grow new ones?
- StudentDo you know hany many bugs have stingers
Bugscope Teamfemale insects have stingers. stingers are modified ovipositors, which are used to inject or lay eggs
- StudentHow does it breath and were do you mosty find them?
- 4:05 pm
- StudentHow many Setae do you think are on the bug?
- StudentDoes this bug breathe through a mouth or the wholes?
- Bugscope Teamlacewings are pretty tame as adults -- they eat things like nectar and pollen. but as larvae they are fierce insect predators
- StudentWhat's the most bugs you ever got in one day?
- TeacherLet's go to the true bug spiracle.
- StudentHow many of those are on the bug?
- Studenthow many times to they magnify
- StudentWhy does this look like a tube?
Bugscope Teamits the breathing tube
- Studentwhat is inside the spiracle?
Bugscope Teamthe spiracle is one of the entrances to the tracheal system. it lets oxygen into the body
- TeacherSo, do they breathe through this spiracle?
- StudentHow big is a spiricle?
- Studentwhat are those bumps
- Studentwhat are those bumps?
- Studentwhy is it acurcle?
- StudentIs this poky?
- Studentwhere is it at
- StudentWhat is a true bug?
Bugscope TeamA true bug has a long proboscis which it usses to stab into plants or insects to drink the liquid
- StudentHow many of those breathing holes are on the bug?
- StudentCould a insect drown?
- StudentCould this insect dround?
- Studentcould a bug dround?
Bugscope Teamthey can drown; they can also close their spiracles to hold their breath
- Studentwhy is it so small ?
- Bugscope Teamthis is the side of the abdomen, and there will be another spiracle in the same position on the other side
- StudentCould an inscet drown
Bugscope TeamThey need oxygen, so yes
- StudentCan ticks drown?
- StudentCould an insect sufficate if it's up-side down?
- Studentdo all bugs have spiracles on there legs
Bugscope TeamI think they're all on the abdomen or on the thorax
- Teacherthat is cool!
- StudentHow many spiracles do you think are on a bug?
Bugscope Teamdepends on the bug, but 20 to 30, maybe
- StudentHOW DO THEY EAT?
Bugscope Teamsome insects bit and chew and swallow their food, some get it as a liquid through a straw-like proboscis
- StudentDo the bugs drownd often or do they stay away from water?
Bugscope TeamThey generally don't head into situations where they'll die
- Studenthow can they close the hole ?
- StudentWhat part of this is the mouth?
- StudentHow is oxegen carried throught the body?
- TeacherWhat are the white specks?
- Studenthow do they keep the blood in
- Studentwhat are those hairy things around the holes
- Studenthow many chromosomes do bugs have?
Bugscope Teamthey have varying numbers of chromosomes -- there are so many different species of bugs
- 4:10 pm
- Guestcan it find some air in water if you put it in the water
- StudentDos this only let in oxygen or does it let anything else in the spriacle
- StudentWhat fluid carries oxegen through the body?
Bugscope Teaminsects have hemolymph, but I am not sure that carries oxygen
- StudentWhat started this "bugscope" idea?
Bugscope Teamwe wanted to be able to run a sustainable outreach program, and this turned out to be a lot of fun
- TeacherWe're switching to the moth scales.
- StudentDo bugs have tongues?
- StudentIs this on the trees
- StudentAre the scales on the wings?
- Studenthow long can this bug live?
- Studentdo thoes act like shingals?
- Studentwhy does the scale look like wood
- StudentWhy do moths have scales
Bugscope Teamthe scales help them get out of webs
- Studentwhat are those lines on the scale
- StudentDo human and the bugs hae the same proses of mitoses and mioses?
- Studentdont they have a powdery substcence
- Studentif one falls out do they grow back
- StudentWhy are the scales able to come off if you touch them?
- Studentwhat happens if one of the scales falls off?
Bugscope Teamno problem there are more
- Studentdo bugs have red blood cells?
Bugscope Teamno they don't really have blood like we do
- Studentwhy are they different shapes
- Studentwhy are some rounded?
- Studenthow do the scales help a moth?
- Studenthow do they keep them down ?
- Studentare they like armor?
- StudentAre they like our skin?
Bugscope Teamno they are made of chitin like shrimp shells
- Studentwill one replace another one>
Bugscope Teamno they are not replaced
- StudentHow many Chromosomes do moths have?
- Studentare the scales living?
- StudentAre these scales living
- Studenthow many scales are there
- Studentdo they reproduse sexually or asexually
Bugscope Teamthey have eggs
- StudentHow long do the scales last?
- StudentDo they have different patterns?
Bugscope Teamyes they do, and they sometimes have different colors, both structural colors and actual pigment colors
- Guestare the scales thin as paper
- Student Does the scales help moths fly?
- Studentis there powder on the scales
Bugscope Teamthe scales are what feels like powder when you rub a butterfly's wings
- Studentwhat happens if there is a bare spot?
- Studentwhat happens when scales are removed
- 4:15 pm
- Studentwhy are they all crooked?
- StudentAre scales more vulnerable for bacteria or death in one spot?
- StudentSo does that make them more valurable for virus or bacteria to affect them?
- Studenthow hard are the skales
Bugscope Teamthey are soft and flexible, kind of like featheres
- StudentHow many scales are there
- Studentdo they break easily?
Bugscope TeamThe scales are velvety and come of easily with touch
- StudentAre moths nocturnal?
- Bugscope Teamfeathers
- Guestdo they died after a big number of scales are off
Bugscope Teamyes they may die if they lose a lot of scales
- StudentIs this a moth?
- TeacherWhy are these pictures in black and white? Do electron microscopes ever capture pictures in color?
Bugscope Teamelectron microscopes capture images as signal, and the images come from the secondary electrons, usually
Bugscope TeamIt uses electrons instead of photons, so they're all in black and white
- Studentwhy is there lines?
- Studentwhat is that spot?
- StudentIs it always completely straight?
- Studentwhat are those lines
Bugscope Teambob7 those are the ridges of the scale
- StudentHow much does a electron microscope caot?
- Studenthow much do your electron microscopes cost?
Bugscope Team10 years ago it cost $600,000 and has a $35,000 yearly service contract
- Studenthow much scales do moths have?
Bugscope Teamthousands, and lots of different shapes
- Studentwhat is that stitching?
- Guestare the little stops dust
Bugscope Teamthere is dust on there, yes
- TeacherLet's look at the underside of a large spider?
- Studentdo butterflys have scales?
Bugscope Teamyes they do. so do mosquitos, silverfish, some weevils, moths, and skippers
- Studentare the scales important?
- StudentWhy does it look so velvety?
Bugscope Teambecause it is
- Studenthow much does your microscope cost ?
Bugscope Teamabout $600,000 10 years ago
- Studentwhat is the rope thing?
- StudentDo spiders have stingers?
Bugscope Teamno they have fangs. they inject venom that dissolves the inside of their prey, and they suck that all up like a milkshake
- StudentHow much do electron microspopes cost now?
- Studentcan you see atoms with these microscopes?
- 4:21 pm
- TeacherI"m having trouble changing presets? I see Warning: You're probably at the max or min of that control
Bugscope Teamlet me see if it works for me
- StudentHave you ever got a goliath taranula?
- Studentcan you see electrons, protons,& neutrons?
- StudentDo they drink blood?
- Guestare there cells in the scales
- Studentwhy do spiders have fangs
- Studentwhat is the macimom magnification that the microscops can magnifi
- StudentDo all spiders have venom?
Bugscope Teamyes, some are more potent than others
- Studentare they born with the scales?
- StudentHow many much can an electrion microscope magnifie?
- Studenthow many scales are there ?
- StudentWhat are the egg things
- Studentwhy is the spider so hairy
Bugscope Teamthose hairs help the spider to feel its environment
- Studentis that an exoskeleton?
- Studentare those hairs
Bugscope Teamthose hairs are called setae (see-tee) and they help insects to sense their environment
- TeacherSo this is the underside of a large spider!
- StudentHow do spiders get rid of waste/
Bugscope Teamlike people, in a way. but they can recycle their web by eating it
- Studentwas this particular spider poisonus
- StudentWhat are the bag shapes on the fangs?
- Studentdo spides drink blood
Bugscope Teamthey liquify their prey and drink them kind of like a milk shake
- Studentwhat's the tube thing?
- Studenthow much venom does this one have?
- Studentit looks like beaks.Why?
- TeacherAre those broken off legs?
Bugscope Teamyes we could not have all of the legs on the stub and would not be able to see past them if we did
- TeacherIS anything you magnify considered at the NANO scale?
Bugscope Teamwhen we look at brochosomes, those are 200 to 400 nm in diameter
- StudentYuck a bloody milkshake
- Studentdo they bite their victim?
- Studenthow do they bite there victim
- Studenthow many kinds of spiders are there?
Bugscope Teamthere are about 40,000 different species of spiders! wow!
- Bugscope Teamalso, when we work with nanotube, they're even smaller
- StudentOur time is almost up.
- TeacherWe need to stop our session in a few mintues -- kids would like to tell you THANKS
- Studentthank you for your time
- Studentthank you guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- StudentThank you for showing us theese pictures of bugs through an electon microscome.
- 4:26 pm
- Bugscope Teamwith bugscope we see things that are in the hundreds of nanometers, often
- TeacherCan we view this text after the session?
- Student thanks for your time with us!
- Studentthank you for a spectacular time all of you thanks for your time
- Guestthank you for your time answering us
- Studentby time is up for us to go thank you for doing this for us
- StudentOur time is almost up, and thank you for answering all of our questions.
- StudentThanks for answering our questions, this is more fun than I thought it would be!
- Bugscope Teammrs. B, don't forget your member page, all chat and images are saved there: http://bugscope.beckman.illinois.edu/members/2009-101
- Bugscope TeamAlex beat me to it.
- Bugscope Teamall chat and images are saved to http://bugscope.beckman.illinois.edu/members/2009-101
- Bugscope TeamThank You! We tried to answer as many questions as we could... ;)
- Bugscope TeamBye!
- Bugscope Teamchowzers
- StudentAre time is almost up. Tahnks for letting us do this activity. Ithink it is cool. Bye.
- TeacherThanks you so much for providing this experience for our kids.
Bugscope Teamit is so much fun on our end
- Bugscope TeamBye buck.
- Bugscope TeamBuh-Bye, Bob!
- TeacherI will be sharing this website and opportunity at a technology/science meeting tomorrow, so you might be getting some more applications!
Bugscope Teamtell them we're booked into February now, pretty cool after 10 years to be so busy
- TeacherI will try to join another group within the next few days, just to see what their questions are like.
- Bugscope Teamthank you Mrs B. they'll be very similar, I bet
- TeacherThanks again from the 20 students, 2 teachers, & 3 tech. people who participated on our end!
- Bugscope TeamYeah, the comments are generally pretty similiar
- Bugscope Teamsometimes we don't get to talk to the students, but that is what we like the most
- TeacherGood bye from ADM! :)
- Bugscope TeamGood bye!
- Bugscope TeamGoodbye!!