Roosevelt Elementary School
Session 2008-123

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Connected on 2009-01-08 11:00:00 from , CA, US

• 10:49 am
• Bugscope TeamGood morning Mrs McCarthy!
• Bugscope Teamhi, welcome to bugscope!
• Teachergood morning
• Bugscope Teamwe are setting up presets right now
• Teacherthank you we're still getting things set up here
• Bugscope Teamwe'll be done in a couple of minutes
• Bugscope Teamok, if you have any questions in the meantime, please just ask, we are here to help
• Teacherhow should the kids log in on their laptops we have 2 kids per laptop
• Bugscope Teamwell, they should visit http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/live, and login as a student, no password
• Bugscope Teamand 2 kids per laptop is a great idea
• Bugscope Teamthey can take turns asking questions
• Bugscope Teamthey can combine their names, like StephanieAmy, or however they would like to do it
• Teacheron the login it says teacher, guest, or admin do they use guest?
  Bugscope TeamHmm, there should be a student login, are you trying from a different computer?

• Bugscope Teamonce the teacher is logged in, all future logins to that page should show up as "student", but if it's not doing that, then something is acting funky on our end. no problem, just have them login as guest
• 10:54 am
• Bugscope Teamit might be that the laptops are on a different network subnet, if so, then that would explain why it's not showing student as an option
• Bugscope Teamour software checks for the network subnet, once the teach logs in, all future logins (from that SAME subnet) are "students"
• Bugscope Teamyeah that is our fault; it's the way we have it set up so that outside visitors cannot log in as your students
• Bugscope Teamdoes that make sense mrs. mccarthy? if student doesn't show up, just have them login as guests. functionally, guest is the same as student
• Bugscope Teamso if the laptops are on a different subnet the software does not give them the 'student' option
• Bugscope Teambut as Guests they will be fine

• Bugscope Teamok, sorry for the trouble. go ahead and use guest login, it will work just fine. we will try to think of a way around this problem in the future
• Bugscope Teamhi students, welcome to bugscope!
• 11:00 am
• Bugscope Teamwelcome to bugscope, online in urbana, illinois. welcome from california!
• Bugscope Teamif you have any questions, please feel free to ask and we will try our best to answer
• Bugscope Teammrs. mccarthy, you now have control of the scope. we can give control to any student if you wish, just let us know
• TeacherThank you ! Welcome to california. the kids are getting logged out after we enter their nicknames
• Bugscope Teamhmm, i will call now, not sure what the problem is
• Bugscope Teamlet me test some things
• Teacherthe message says too small to use f11
• Bugscope Teami tried calling the number on your application and got a machine, is there a phone i can reach you at now?
• Bugscope Teamah! yes, your screen resolution MUST be at least 1024x768. did you run the compatibility test from these laptops?
• Bugscope Teamtry changing the screen resolution to a bigger size, and see if it works then
• 11:05 am
• Bugscope Teammrs. mccarthy, might be easier if we can talk on the phone. the number here is 217-265-8164. i can call you if you give me a number
• Teacheryes, but we had to change commputers at the last minute it looklike we may have figured it out
• Bugscope TeamWe'll get it to work....

• Bugscope TeamMichelle, Jeff are you all driving?
• 11:10 am

• Bugscope Teamfacsicle
• Teacherwhat is this
• Bugscope TeamThis is the tip of the proboscis of the mosquito.
• Bugscope Teamonly female mosquitoes bite
• Teacherwhile we wait to figure out the computers, I'll do the teacher control
• Bugscope TeamI just talked with Chas, who is working on the back end as well.
• Teacherok I have all the kids on the rug, and I'm projecting on the big screen
• 11:15 am
• Bugscope TeamResourceful!
• Bugscope TeamThe four bees you sent are on the stub, and the two egg cases, and the two baby fruit flies.
• Bugscope TeamMrs. McCarthy, could you describe what the window looks like on the student computers? Does it say something along the lines of "If you see this message for more than 10 second..." in any of the fields?
• Teacheryes I think it did

• Teacherwhat are we looking at asks Moises

• Bugscope TeamThis is salt from a Wendy's restaurant

• Bugscope Teamit is a little out of focus

• Bugscope TeamThere. Nice!]
• Bugscope TeamI forgot to make this into a preset. This is a field of salt.

• 11:21 am
• Bugscope Teamnow we can see some very nice looking mold spores
• Teacherdo they have mold when they are alive or was it from having the bee in a jar for a while?
• Bugscope Teamlikely it was that brief time in the jar
• Bugscope Teamthis is fresh very good looking mold
• TeacherMelody likes the mold spores
• Bugscope TeamYeah they are so pretty. We were looking for pollen but have not found any yet!

• Bugscope TeamThe mold is breaking down the dead bee's body.
• TeacherWhat is an ocellus asks Kelly
  Bugscope Teaman ocellus is a simple eye (ocelli for plural), they are often found on flying insects, they are different from the compound eyes which have hundreds of facets and lens's, the ocellus has just one
• Bugscope Teaman ocellus is a 'simple' eye
• Bugscope Teamcompared to a larger more complex compound eye
• Bugscope Teama lot of flying insects have three ocelli on the top of their heads in addition to the compound eyes
• Bugscope Teamso really they have five eyes
• Bugscope Teamif you take the mag down here you can see more of the head
• Bugscope Teamyou are doing a great job driving, and we are sorry about the connection problems.
• TeacherChris asks what are the things on the ocellus? Mr. Burill asks is there a preset for a compound eye?
• 11:26 am

• Bugscope Teamthere is dust on the ocellus, perhaps shrunken mold spores
• Bugscope TeamForked hairs!!! One of the characteristics of bees are their forked hairs.

• Bugscope Teampreset no. 5 is one of the compound eyes
• Bugscope Teamit is interesting that you sent those tiny egg cases -- two of them -- and we also found two fruit flies, still folded from having been in the cases

• Teacherahhhhhhhhhh oohhhhhhhh
• Bugscope Teamha it's the face of one of the bees
• Bugscope Teamyou can see that the compound eyes are 'hairy'
• GuestMrs. McCarthy: In case the window-size check, which would have popped up a message like "Your browser window is smaller than the recommended size. Resize to suggested?" was the problem, I have disabled it. If one of the students tries quitting firefox and then visiting the login page again and logging in as a guest, we can see if that has helped
• Bugscope Teamcheck out all the hairs! those hairs are called setae (see-tee), they help the bee sense its environment, kinda like cat whiskers
• Bugscope Teamyou can see the jaws, here, which fold open from side to side like a gate
• Teacherwhats that asks Moises?
• TeacherI'll have one of our wonderful volunteers do that for us
• Bugscope Teamthis is the head of one of your bees
• Bugscope Teamyou can see the mouthparts as well, and the antennae

• Bugscope Teamthe compound eyes are on the side of the head, they have setae sticking out of them too

• Bugscope Teamsee the tiny setae on the jaw, and on the face?

• 11:31 am
• Bugscope Teammany of those setae are mechanosensory -- they allow the bee to feel wind and things it might be touching
• Bugscope Teamthese setae stick through the exoskeleton, to nerves underneath. that is how the bees sense their environment
• TeacherKarina asks were there any varooa mites on the bees?
• Bugscope TeamKarina! We did not see any varroa mites.
• Bugscope TeamWe looked, and they are very large so we should have seen them if they were there.
• TeacherSo did they probably die of natural causes
• Teachercan you see pesticide residue if there was any?
• Bugscope TeamYes, probably.
• Bugscope TeamDid you find these bees somewhere around your school?
• Bugscope TeamWe might not recognize it if we did. But it would likely appear as tiny crystals.
• Teacheryes, the bees were collected around the school and the neighborhood

• 11:36 am

• Bugscope TeamAnd they were dead when you found them?
• Bugscope Teamthey are so wrinkled that we are guessing they are fruit flies

• Bugscope TeamThe bees--that is?
• Bugscope Teamwe know they are not baby bees because they have halteres

• Bugscope Teamso halteres grow as the bee does? is there no haltere at all when the bee is infant? interesting!

• Bugscope TeamI think the bees were dead when Mrs M found them

• Bugscope Teama bee would never have a haltere because it has four wings
• Bugscope Teamoh, silly me, yes, i forgot, sorry
• Bugscope TeamWhen a bee is a "baby" it is a larvae--like a caterpillar. It has no wings. Baby insects don't have wings (or halteres)

• Bugscope Teamwell we thought they might be newly hatched bees

• Bugscope TeamMrs M you can go to, for example, preset 10, if you would like
• 11:42 am
• Teacherwhen I try to center the image it keeps moving and when I click to stop it it doesn't respond
• Bugscope Teamwe just reset the scope, try it again

• Bugscope TeamI just took us to the folded wings

• Bugscope Team(when you click to center you do not need to click to stop)
• Bugscope Teamif you still have problems just let us know, seems to be okay now
• Teacheris this the wing of the bee or the fruit fly?
• Bugscope Team(when you click to drive you do)
• Bugscope Teamthis is the fruit fly, and I am sorry I did not put that in the preset name
• Teacherno worries.

• Bugscope Teamit is really interesting that we see all of this detail on the wing -- it looks like a moth eye
• Bugscope Teamyou are doing a great job of controlling the scope mrs. mccarthy, focus can be tricky, try going the other way if it's getting worse
• Bugscope TeamThose individual structures are much smaller than the wavelength of visible light!
• Bugscope Teamthis is pretty high mag for bugscope -- you can see that the round objects on the wing are maybe 100 nm in diameter

• Bugscope Teamyes as Chas says -- visible light is about 400 to 700 nm
• Bugscope TeamThe streaky horizontal lines are due to vibration. Even talking at a normal volume in the room can shake the microscope enough to distort the image like that
• Bugscope Teamthe wing is wrinkled because the fruit fly was never able to let it dry and unfold
• Bugscope Teamyeah, at such a high mag, some things are difficult to focus without changing things inside the scope
• Bugscope Teamhe/she would also have pumped hemolymph into the wing veins to help 'inflate' the wings
• 11:47 am
• Bugscope TeamThe consequence of something being ~4x smaller than the wavelength of visible light is that you could never see the structures clearly with an optical microscope. The electrons we're bombarding the sample with are orders of magnitude smaller, thus their ability to resolve such fine features
• Bugscope Teamif you take the mag still lower you will be able to see the whole fly
• TeacherMrs. Fischer asks is there anything on the bees that would indicated age?
  Bugscope TeamWell, a bee that you found outside of the hive would be a forager bee--which is the oldest of the worker bees. A normal worker bee lives about 3 weeks if it is lucky--so I would predict that this bee is about 3 weeks old.

• Bugscope Teamsometimes we can see grooves in claws, or in the jaws, or scratches on the eye -- that indicate a full life

• Bugscope Teamthis is the compound eye of one of the bees.
• TeacherDo you see anything on this eye?

• Bugscope Teamyou can see a few of the ommatidia

• Bugscope Teamtheir wings get ragged and their hair gets less "fluffy", as well
• Bugscope Teamand some dirt, and all of those setae -- the hairs
• Bugscope Teamnow we can see many more of the ommatidia
• Teacherhow many lenses on a compound eye asks Nicolle?
  Bugscope Teamthere are many, hundreds, but it's different from eye to eye, insect to insect. flying insects usually have lots of ommatidia, it gives them better sight when flying
  Bugscope TeamIt depends heavily on the insect. Their reliance on their sight is usually proportional to the number of lenses/ommatidia they have. For example, ants often have few enough you could count by hand, whereas a fly has hundreds to thousands
• 11:52 am
• Bugscope Teaminsects can often see light in ultraviolet wavelengths -- light that we cannot see
• TeacherChris asks why do bees have hairs on their eyes?
  Bugscope Teami think those setae in the eye help to sense wind speed and direction, so they give the insects better flying capability. but i'm not certain, annie or someone else should confirm that
• Teacherwhat about bees? how many ommatidia ?
  Bugscope TeamHoney bees have 4500 ommatidia

• Bugscope Teamper eye
• 11:57 am
• Teacherwhat is this white feather like thing on the eye asks Kelly
• Bugscope Teamone advantage of having compound eyes, compared to our eyes, is that compound eyes register motion very quickly

• Bugscope Teamthe tall thin thing? that's a seta, bent at the socket
• Bugscope Teamthe darker thing looks like dust or something
• Teacherthe horizontal white thing ?

• Bugscope Teamhamuli!
• TeacherKelly says it looks like onion rings. What is it?
• Teacherare these what clip the pair of wings together
  Bugscope Teamabsolutely--the hammuli
• Bugscope TeamYes Mrs M!
• Bugscope TeamThey hold the fore- and hindwings together in flight.

• Bugscope Teamthis is the tip of the tongue of the bee
• TeacherKelly asks what are those hair thingys on the tongue
  Bugscope TeamThe hairs are setae that presumably help the bee gather pollen, and some of them are likely chemosensory.
• TeacherMrs. Fischers asks what sensory organs do they have on their tongues?
  Bugscope TeamInsects have many different types of hairs (or setae) that help them to sense their environment--that includes helping them to taste their food
• 12:04 pm

• TeacherChris asks what is scopa?
  Bugscope Teamscopa are pollen collecting hairs on the legs of bees
• TeacherAre they part of the pollen basket?
  Bugscope Teamyes
• Bugscope Teamyes!
• TeacherDid you ever find any pollen?

• Bugscope Teamit is sad but we have not found any -- maybe you can

• Bugscope Teamit is pretty distinctive
• Teacherwhat is this on the hairs?
  Bugscope Teamthese look like fungal mycelia

• 12:09 pm

• Teacherwhat is this
• TeacherCan we mangnify out on any preset to see the whole bee?

• Bugscope Teamyes!

• Bugscope Teamnow you can sort of see where you are

• Teacherthe adults all say Wow!!!!!!
• Bugscope Teamyeah, try zooming out, you should be able to get down to 40x or so, that'll give you a nice look at the whole bee, or part of it
• Teacherthe kids are antsy!
• Bugscope Teamthose round flat things were sensory structures on the antennae

• Bugscope Teamantsy? or beesy?
• Bugscope Teamwe are sorry they are not able to connect today -- it would have helped diffuse some of that energy

• Bugscope Teamit is disappointing for us because we like to chat directly with the kids
• Bugscope Teamchas is the mastermind of the website, and he'll be able to fix the problem, we are certain of it. we haven't seen this problem before or we would have fixed it
• 12:14 pm
• Bugscope Teambut you have done a great job saving the session, making something good out of it
• TeacherI I think they got a lot out of the time but the adults got even more out of the time
• Bugscope Teammuch of the chemosensing that insects do, especially bees, is via their antennae

• Bugscope Teamthe flat parts of the mouth are the maxillae

• Bugscope TeamThese little impressions are sensilla that are unique to bees and a few other hymeopterans

• Bugscope Teamthe central part of the mouth -- the hairy part -- is the proboscis, and its tip is called the glossa

• Bugscope Teamthis looks at first like a piece of fungus, but I think it is plant fiber
• Studentwhat is this? asks Nicolle
• Bugscope Teamas we had said earlier in the session, all of the images you are collecting go to your database and may be viewed later
• Bugscope Teamthis is a piece of plant fiber, but I am not sure just where we are

• StudentMy computer quit. I'm on another. I have to to to yard duty. Mrs. Fischer will us whatever tijme we have left. Thank you so much for this wonderful opportunity!

• 12:19 pm
• Bugscope Teamif we decrease the magnification, we can see a little better where we are in relation to the rest of the insect
• Bugscope Teamah this is over one of the maxillae -- one of the mouthparts

• Bugscope Teamthis is the head of a mosquito!

• Bugscope Teamit has compound eyes as well but they are shrunken -- caved in
• Bugscope Teamnow we see the donut-shaped base of the antenna
• Bugscope Teamand we see little feather-like scales
• Bugscope Teambutterflies, moths, skippers, mosquitos, and silverfish have scales

• Bugscope Teamwow, look at all those deflated ommatidia!

• Bugscope Teamwhen insects dry up, sometimes their body parts shrivel up and make weird formations

• Bugscope Teamnow we are imaging one of the ocelli again
• TeacherAre setae made of chitin?
  Bugscope TeamYes, setae are chitin. In fact, the whole outside of the insect is chitin, more or less.
• Bugscope Teamif you take the mag down now you will see a different aspect of the bee's head
• 12:25 pm
• StudentThat looks grost.

• Bugscope Teambusted antenna above

• Bugscope Teamwhoa, look at the hole in the upper right, that's a broken socket hole, i think more of the antenna (or legs?) belongs there

• Bugscope Teamantennae

• Studentwhat is that.
• Bugscope Teamthe setae the antenna is rested on are plumose -- they are more frond-like
• Bugscope Teamthis is a hole or a bee antenna, where part of it broke off
• Bugscope Teamthis is the inside of a broken bee antenna
• Studentwhat are thoes spiky things.
• Bugscope Teamthe spikey things are setae that cover the antenna and much of the bee's exoskeleton
• Studentthat looks funny.
• Studentok.
• Bugscope Teamthere is some dried on liquid as well
• Bugscope Teamlooks cool huh? setae (see-tee) help insects sense their environment, kinda like how cat whiskers work, except cats don't have an exoskelton
• 12:30 pm
• Bugscope Teammany of the setae on the antenna are chemosensory -- they help the bee pick up odors in the air
• Bugscope Teamsetae can be mechanosensory or chemosensory, at least
• Studentthank you for all.
• Bugscope TeamI guess that would be the definition of an odor -- that it is in the air ;)
• TeacherIt looks like we are all done with our session at this end. Thank You all so very much for your time and anvery, very interesting experience ! ! !
• Bugscope Teammrs. mccarthy, don't forget....
• Bugscope Teamsetae can also protect the insect, by being spiky or making the insect "slippery"
• Bugscope Teamall the chat and images from this session are saved to your member page, the link is....
• Bugscope TeamPlease connect with us again, Mrs M. We will work out the laptop connection problem
• Bugscope Teamhttp://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/members/2008-123
• Bugscope Teamwe have done around 400 sessions in about 10 years, and there are always new glitches
• Bugscope Teamsetae often give the insect its color, which can camouflage them or help them to recognize each other.
• Bugscope Teamsetae are really important
• TeacherWE look forward to reviewing our session, and again thank you all very much ! ! !
• Student:p
• Bugscope TeamThank You!
• Bugscope Teamyou are very welcome. you are welcome for another session in the future!
• Bugscope Teamwe are sorry, again, for the connection problems. we would love to get them figured out and solved before any future session
• Studentthats ok.
• 12:36 pm
• Bugscope Teamswaqw22, are you logged in from the classroom?
• Studentyes
• Bugscope Teaminteresting, what is different about your computer from the laptops?
• Bugscope Teamanything you can think of?
• Bugscope Teamyou are in Mrs M's classroom?
• Bugscope Teamwe are curious because the laptops couldn't stay connected before, yet you seem to be able to no problem. we would love to try and solve this problem.
• Bugscope TeamHi lfeld52!

• Bugscope Teamthis is the frayed edge of one of the wings

• TeacherI think the problem was at our end, our laptops are networked to a wireless cart and the students had a different connection. So that why they could only as guests.

• 12:41 pm
• Bugscope TeamMrs M we should not have been bumping them off -- so we are concerned
• Bugscope Teamok, that would explain that, but getting knocked off right after you login should not happen. that is strange. swaqw22 is still logged in and must be on a different computer? not a laptop?
• Bugscope Teambumping them off the connection, even as guests
• Bugscope TeamBut -- we would love to do this with you again.
• Bugscope Teamsometimes students do login as guests, and that should be fine. we are sorry they couldn't this time. answering hundreds of kids questions can be a blast!
• Bugscope TeamNext time it fits into your curriculum.

• Bugscope Teamwe just want to try and fix any problems we may have, so that this connection thing doesn't happen in the future. we want the experience to be a painless as possible for the teachers and students.
• TeacherThe other problem was with the error message our laptop had with the resolution. Maybe it was with Firefox.
• Bugscope Teamand swaqw22 must be on a different computer, not a laptop?
• Bugscope TeamYou should've been able to click ok on that and keep going. According to what we thought...
• Bugscope Teamok, if you want to do another session in the future (totally!), then i can help you try to figure out what's going on with the laptops, maybe a test session or something. it is no problem, i'm sure we can figure it out
• TeacherYes swaqw22 was using a desktop system.
• 12:46 pm
• Bugscope Teami wonder if you can login as a teacher to the laptop as well? if that also doesn't work, then it might be some security software on the laptops that doesn't like what bugscope does and kills it
• Bugscope Teamnot sure though, we'd need to do some more testing, via phone. i am more than willing to try that in the future if you want another session. okay?
• TeacherI am on a laptop, but didn't have the same problem as the student laptops.
• Bugscope Teamah! interesting
• Bugscope Teamthat's strange
• Bugscope Teami'll pass that info onto chas, and we'll see if we can discover anything on our end

• TeacherSounds good. We'll call and try a test session. Thanks.
  Bugscope Teamok, thanks for the great session, you did a great job!

• 12:52 pm
• TeacherI'll have to ask our tech about the router connection, good question.
• Bugscope Teamok
• Bugscope Teamwell, time to close the session up? or did you have any more questions?
• Studentlaptop shut down. thanks again! we'l be in touch. Bye everyone!
• Bugscope Teamok, nice session everyone. good bye!