Connected on 2008-02-25 13:00:00
from Morrisville, PA, US
- 12:01 pm
- Bugscope Teamsample in the scope, starting vacuum
- Bugscope Teamvacuum is very slow to go, may need to remove the sample...
- 12:10 pm
- Bugscope Teamvac ready, starting presets
- 12:16 pm
- Bugscope Teamyo scotteroni!
- Bugscope TeamHey Man.
- Bugscope Teammaking presets
- Bugscope TeamWhat sample is this?
- Bugscope TeamOh I guess I can see.
- Bugscope Teamthis is a stinger from Saturday.
- Bugscope Teampupa!
- 12:22 pm
- 12:28 pm
- Bugscope Teamtrap jaw preset, and then we are done
- Bugscope Teamokay, presets are done, we are ready
- Bugscope Teamhello high point, welcome to bugscope!
- Bugscope TeamHello High Point!
- Bugscope Teamwhere are you from?
- GuestHello. We are looking forward to this.
- Bugscope Teamoh hey, you are from high point school
- Bugscope Teamyou've got a session on the 28th, awesome.
- GuestSparta, Wisconsin
- Bugscope Teami just gave you control of the scope. we are waiting for the school to login, but we've got about 15-30 minuites, so you are welcome to practice now
- Bugscope TeamLooks like Alex just gave you control if you want to test for a few minutes.
- Guestthanks
- Bugscope Teamyou should see controls on your right (magnify, navigation, focus and adjust)
- Bugscope Teamthen there are preset on the bottom right. you can click on a preset to force the scope to goto an intersting location we picked for you
- Bugscope Teamotherwise, you can just drive the scope around anywhere you want to
- Guestthat is so easy and cool
- Bugscope Teamhi suziq56, welcome to bugscope!
- 12:33 pm
- Bugscope Teamwhere are you from suziq56?
- GuestI am from Raleigh, NC.
- Bugscope Teamcool, are you here for practice?
- Bugscope TeamThere is a college in NC called High Point as well.
- GuestI feel comfortable already if they want to take over
- Bugscope Teamthat is great high point, glad you are digging it, any questions?
- GuestI am just observing out of curiosity.
- Bugscope Teamok, no problem suzi156
- Bugscope TeamCool! You are welcome, of course.
- Bugscope TeamThat was a leaf mimic ant.
- Bugscope Teamthe one that looked like the flying nun.
- Bugscope Teamhigh point, if you notice any lag during your session, then you should stay away from "click to drive" and stay on "click to cneter". however, your compatibility test was excellent, and your network speed was awesome, so i don't forsee any problems
- Bugscope Teamnow you can see one of the bee eyes, with lots of setae sticking out of it
- Bugscope Team"click to drive" sends live video to your browser, whereas "click to center" sends incremental images, which are much less data
- GuestThe controls are working just fine
- Bugscope Teamawesome
- Bugscope TeamHi Jon!
- GuestWhat do the setae do, protect the eye?
Bugscope Teamit is thought that the setae on the compound eye are mechanosensory, so they help the insect to sense air speed and air direction while flying. that's how they move so fast when your hand is about to hit them!
- 12:38 pm
- Bugscope Teamhi all
- Bugscope Teamthey move in response to the wind and the bee can feel that
- Bugscope Teamjust like hairs on your arm feel the wind
- Bugscope Teaminsects/arthropods have lots of setae that help them keep in touch with the outer world
- Bugscope Teamsince they have an exoskeleton
- Guestfire drill have to leave now thanks
- Bugscope Teamoops wow
- Bugscope Teamok, thanks for loging in high point! see you on the day of your session
- Bugscope Teamsuziq56, i just gave you control of the scope
- GuestOK I will go for it.
- Bugscope Teamyou should see controls now, on the top right (magnify, navigation, focus, adjust) and then presets on your bottom right
- Bugscope TeamYou can move, you can select a preset from one of those on the right, you can change mag...
- Bugscope Teamand you can also refine focus and change the contrast/brightness
- GuestI can't seem to move it where I want to.
- Bugscope Teamhmm, what happens when you try click to center?
- Bugscope Teamdoes it say anything like: can't execute command?
- Bugscope Teamah, i see you are moving with "click to drive"
- GuestI got it now.
- 12:43 pm
- Bugscope Teamclick to drive means you have to click once to start moving. then click aagain to stop
- Bugscope Teamclick to drive is also hard to control if your network is slow
- Bugscope Teamif you are seeing lots of lag, then try click to center instead
- Bugscope Teamyeah that is the trick -- click to stop
- Bugscope Teamoops now we are off the stange.
- Bugscope Teammake sure when you use click to drive that you click again to stop
- Bugscope Teamif the image isn't updating fast enough, that means your internet is a little slow
- Bugscope Teamif that's the case, then use click to center instead. click to center is very good too.
- Bugscope Teamsometimes the stage will reach its limit and we have to reset it
- Bugscope Teammuch easier to get fine control with click to center
- Bugscope TeamYay Annie!
- Bugscope Teamif you want to go to an interesting location, click on one of the presets. we set those up for ya
- GuestDo you do any sessions with butterflies or catetpillars?
- Bugscope Teamyep!
- Bugscope Teambut they will usually be parts of them since they are so big
- Bugscope Teamlike a portion of wing, and the body
- 12:48 pm
- GuestThis is so interesting but I gotta get back to work. I am going to read up more about this so I can do this with some students here.
- Bugscope Teamthanks for joining suzi56!
- Bugscope Teamsounds great SuziQ we will be glad to have you here
- Bugscope Teamawesome, just fill out an apllication when you want to do it.
- Guestback again. the 28th we will be doing this with montessori students grades 1-4. they will love this.
- Bugscope Teamcool. looking forward to it!
- Guestany suggestions for specimens to look at that day?
- Bugscope Teamare you going to let the students login and chat?
- Bugscope Teamwell, we can provide you with a sample of bugs if you didn't send us one. we are good at picking out bugs.
- Guestwe will have them asking the questions but the teacher will probably type since we are hooking it up to the infocus projector
- Guestwe planned on using your bugs
- Bugscope Teamok, no problem, we will make sure to get you a good sample. we always try to pick good bugs. scott and cate usually prep the sample, and they are experts at it
- Bugscope TeamCate is good.
- Bugscope Teamokay, teacher doing the typing is fine. it is your decision as the teacher to decide how to run your session.
- Bugscope Teami will say though, that it is often very interesting for the students when they can talk to us directly.
- 12:54 pm
- Bugscope TeamSometimes with younger students an aide types the questions and a teacher drives, or vice versa.
- Guestwe will try to have kids write to you
- Bugscope Teamoh, depends on age too. younger kids might not type so well
- Guesttheir spelling may be questionable
- Bugscope Teambut we love talking directly with the kids
- Bugscope Teamours is too
- Bugscope Teami'm a terrible speller!
- Bugscope Teamjust ask scott
- Guesti am on the phone with the teacher right now. she and the kids are excited
- Bugscope Teamcool, is that doug geiwitz?
- Bugscope Teama part of bugscope that seems very effective is having the kids write and get responses from us; they like to be acknowledged
- Guestyes
- Guesthow many of you are current students?
- Bugscope TeamI am a PhD student in entomology
- Bugscope Teamannie is a PHD student, in entomology, the rest of us are staff at the U of I
- Bugscope Teamjust Annie. I guess we are all perennial students
- Guestwhat a great way to interact with young kids.
- Bugscope Teamokay, it's about time for the school to login. no word from them yet. scott i'll call them in 5 minutes
- 12:59 pm
- Bugscope Teamit is the most fun we have in a week
- Guesthow do you use this technology in your work
- Bugscope Teamwe train grad students and postdocs, mostly, to use the microscopes to do their own research
- Bugscope Teamthis is one of the microscopes
- Bugscope Teamwe are a support group for the Beckman Institute, so we setup, train and fix all the EQ that is used by studetnts, and faculty: microscopes, scanners, etc.
- Guestwhat is the max magnification
- Bugscope Teamsome look at bugs others at bones
- Bugscope Teamwe have a lot of engineers looking at all kinds of stuff
- Bugscope Teamthe remote access technology is used less frequently, but sometimes it is involved in lectures
- Bugscope Teamwe can go over 800,000x, but meaningful images no more than about 200,000x
- Guestthanks for the introduction and have a great session today. see you on the 28th.
- Bugscope Teamwe are looking forward to it, thanks!
- Bugscope TeamThank You!
- Bugscope Teamthanks bye
- 1:04 pm
- Bugscope Teamhi carolyn, welcome to bugscope!
- Bugscope TeamWelcome to bugscope Mrs Schmitt!
- Bugscope Teamhi there, from PA! you are looking at the stinger on a fire ant
- Bugscope Teammrs. schmitt, you now have control of the scope. but at any time, we can give control to any student. just let us know.
- Bugscope Teamif you have any questions about what you are looking at, or how to control the scope, just ask away.
- Bugscope Teamwe are here to help
- Bugscope Teamthat was me with the brightness
- StudentTom: How long have you been scientist?
Bugscope TeamI have been in graduate school for five years...I don't know when I became a scientist though.
- Bugscope Teamscott, jon and annie are scientists, i'm a computer geek
- Bugscope Teamor if I am one now!
- 1:09 pm
- Bugscope TeamYeah Annie is a scientist.
- Bugscope Teamshe will have to admit it sometime
- StudentBen; What is the electron microscope used for?
Bugscope Teamwe use the scope to see fine details that we can not see with normal light microscopes
- Bugscope Teameventually
- Bugscope Teamthis electron microscope is used to image the surfaces of 3-dimensional, small, samples
- Bugscope Teamthe micrope can magnify up to 800,000x, but normally we image things much less than that. for bugs, we use 25x-20,000x magnification
- Teacherjoe : what bug is this
- Bugscope Teamwe have another electron microscope (a transmission electron microscope) that allows us to see ultrathin samples
- StudentTeacher: What is the unit of measurement used in the lower left hand corner of the screen
Bugscope Teamgood quesiton. the unit of measurment is a micron, one millioth of a meter
- Bugscope Teamthis is a fire ant abdomen
- Bugscope Teamthis is a fire ant, the abdomen, to the north is the stinger
- Bugscope Teammicrometer or micron
- Bugscope Teamone thosusandth of a millimeter
- Teacher?
- Bugscope Teamthousandth
- Bugscope Teamthese were all donated by the entomology department at the university of illinois
- TeacherNick: What other types of things beside bugs do you magnify?
Bugscope Teamvirtually anything we can fit in the scope we can magnify
Bugscope Teambacteria, microchips, paint chips all kinds of stuff
- Bugscope Teambe sure to try some of the presets
- StudentGianfranco: What is the most interesting bug that you ever magnified?
Bugscope Teamthere are always interesting things to look at on bugs, but i like it when there are ticks on bugs. bugs on bugs!
- 1:14 pm
- TeacherMIke are you using the bugs we sent you?
Bugscope Teamno, i'm sorry but we couldn't prepare your bugs today, so we are using a sample that we used this past weekend, for an insect fear festival
- Bugscope Teampeople look at cells, carbon nanotubes, sand, dirt, rocks, meteorites, bacteria, salts, samples they have made out of silicon, PDMS...
- Bugscope TeamPDMS is a rubbery plastic
- StudentTeacher: How do we access the presets?
Bugscope Teamif you are logged in as the teacher, just click on any preset
- Bugscope Teamclick on one, on the right
- Bugscope Teamthe teacher will need to do it
- Bugscope Teammrs. schmitt, if you are on the computer as "student" let me know, and i can give control over to you
- Bugscope Teamthe teacher has a star next to get name indicating that she has control of the microscope
- Bugscope Teamnext to her name I should have said
- StudentTeacher: Are there any major discoveries in medicine that have been made utilizing the electron microscope?
Bugscope TeamI think that people discovered introns using scanning electron microscopy...that has important implications for all areas of biology, including medicine.
- Bugscope Teamsome diseases can be seen using the electron microscope that cannot be seen other ways
- Teacheralex:why is are alien ant look so fuzzy
Bugscope Teamthe image is out of focus, you can adjust focus with the controls, try it and let m eknow if you need help
- Bugscope Teamvirus structures can be determined, for example
- Bugscope Teamtransmission electron microscopy has been around since the 50s; it was invented in the 30s.
- Bugscope TeamIntrons are sections of junk DNA that the cell cuts out before translating the DNA code to make proteins
- StudentMegan: Are you scared of any kind of bugs?
Bugscope TeamI hate horse flies...ugh, I HATE them
- Teacherpat: what kind o bug intrest u the most
Bugscope TeamI study longhorned beetles...wood-boring beetles with long antennae
- Bugscope Teamscanning electron microscopy -- what we are doing now -- was not commercial until 1965
- 1:20 pm
- Bugscope TeamI don't like chiggers
- Bugscope Teammrs. schmitt, when focusing, try going one direction, if it gets worse, go the other way.
- Bugscope Teamah, yeah, there ya go!
- Bugscope Teamnice!
- Bugscope Teamthis is a leaf mimic ant
- TeacherTaylor: What is the most amount of legs on a bug have you seen. What bug?
Bugscope TeamThat's a trick question! All insects have 6 legs!
- StudentAllison: Once you put a bug under the microscope, how long does it take to start seeing the image?
Bugscope Teamnot long maybe five minutes. In most cases it takes a long time to get an object like a bug ready for the scope
- Bugscope Teamthis is another ant from Argentina
Bugscope Teamwell, milipedes have hundreds of legs on them, that's a lot, huh?
- Bugscope Teamwe have seen close to 100 legs on some millipedes
- Bugscope Teamif we consider other arthropods to be bugs
- StudentWhat is a chigger
Bugscope Teamred bugs that hang out in spanish moss in the south
- Bugscope Teamtrue bugs are insects and have only six legs as adults
- Bugscope TeamBut, we shouldn't because bugs are a type of insects. All bugs are insects, but not all insects are bugs!
- StudentAllison: What do you have to do to prepare the bug for the scope?
- Bugscope Teamsome insects can have more than six legs before they become adults
- Bugscope TeamAND, not all arthropods are insects
- StudentAre chiggers poisonous?
Bugscope TeamThey are not poisonous per se. They secrete an enzyme that dissolves your cells and that most people have an allergic reaction to
- Bugscope TeamA chigger is a mite! It is not an insect at all!
- Bugscope Teamchiggers are super tiny
- 1:25 pm
- Teacherhow do you move the miroscope down into his mouth
- Bugscope Teamand we have never had any in the 'scope that I know of
- Bugscope Teamthose red bugs are often spider mites
- Bugscope Teamyou can use the click to center feature
- Bugscope Teamsince you are so close
- TeacherMolly: how did you decide to become a scientist.
Bugscope TeamI always liked being outdoors and learning about the natural world around me. When I was in high school, I decided to make a career out of being outside and looking at insects
- Bugscope TeamI was in danger of becoming an English teacher and decided to add biology to my major in college
- TeacherCarly: How high can we magnify this bug to 300,000
- Bugscope Team'cause I thought English teachers were kind of weird.
- StudentAbigail: What are the holes on the stinkbug called and what are they used for?
Bugscope TeamWhich holes? There are lots of hole on a stinkbug, some that the bug uses for breathing, some that it uses for eating, etc. etc.
- Bugscope Teamthe scope can magnify up to 800,000x, but most insects don't show up well much past 20-30 thousand times.
- Bugscope Teamthere is not much to see on this bug at that high magnification
- Bugscope Teamsome of the holes are spiracles
- 1:30 pm
- Bugscope Teamspiracles are used for breathing, and sometimes they do also perform other functions such as releasing toxins or smells
- Bugscope Teaminsects have lots of defenses that are carried out in a variety of ways
- StudentNidhi: How many different microscopes are there?
Bugscope Teamthere are light microscopes, electron microscopes, and scaning probe microscopes each with of those three have a bunch of different sub catagories depending how they used. This is a scanning electrom microscope which is a version of an electrom microscope
- Bugscope Teammany insect defenses are chemicals released to keep ants away
- TeacherKayle: Is this really an eye?
- Bugscope Teamthere are many different kinds of microscopes
- Bugscope Teamyes this is a compound eye
- Bugscope Teamwith tiny facets on it called ommatidia
- Bugscope Teamthis is an eye on a bee pupa though...it is not fully developed
- Bugscope Teama compound eye has hundreds of eye facets, or ommatidia, each facet has a lens and can get an image and send it to the bug brain
- Bugscope Teamthis bee pupa is a little wrinkly even though we critical point dried it
- Student]
- Bugscope Teamsometimes we can see an eye that has dried and broken, and we can see that the ommatidia really are little lenses
- StudentCan we get the stingless bee?
- Bugscope Teamif you look closely at the eye of the bee pupa you can see the ommatidia
- 1:35 pm
- Bugscope Teamplease
- Teacherwe are trying to click on preset 4 but we keep getting a warning
- StudentKate: Does this microscope enable you to see an actual cell within a body of a bug?
Bugscope Teamthis scope is designed to see the surface of objects, so it is hard to sea individual cells, but sometimes we see bacteria on them which are single cell organisms
- StudentAlek: How much does this type of microscope cost?
- Bugscope Teamhmm, try again, i think the scope is fine
- Bugscope TeamI cannot get the 'scope to move either.
- Bugscope Teami don't see any error on the scope
- Bugscope Teamabout $600,000
- Bugscope Teamit has its own room, its own water and air and nitrogen and electrical power, and AC
- Bugscope Teamokay, i think i fixed the problem. try again mrs schmitt
- Bugscope Teamyay!
- Bugscope Teamstingless bee
- Teacheryeah
- TeacherJulia: why is it so scrunched up?
Bugscope Teamwhen we prepair the bug for the scope the muscles inside shrink making the legs and sometime the body curl.
Bugscope Teamsometimes the bugs get very dried out when we put them in the scope, this may cause the scrunching you are seeing
- StudentEthan: What is the biggest bug you have ever seen under the microscope?
Bugscope TeamI have looked at parts of beetles that are about 2 inches long
- 1:40 pm
- Bugscope TeamInsects often fold up when they die
- Bugscope Teamwe have seen parts of walking sticks in the 'scope
- StudentCan you use the electron microscope to view live specimens?
Bugscope Teamwell, sometimes the insects will survive being in the scope. scott has open the scope only to find a bug walk out of there!
- Bugscope Teamthey are pretty big
- Bugscope Teamwe have used it to image live samples but not on purpose
- Bugscope Teamthere is a vacuum in the specimen chamber
- Bugscope TeamThe beetles are two inches long, the beetle parts are smaller
- StudentConnor: How old is this particular microscope?
- Bugscope Teamthis is as old as bugscope, a little over 9 years
- Bugscope Teamprepare
- Bugscope Teamit's that BSE starting to kick in
- Teachermason do you have more than one eletrone scope?
- Bugscope Teamyes, we also have a transmission electron microscope
- TeacherNick: how are you doing?
- Bugscope Teamwe have a scanning electron microscope and a TEM, as Alex says
- StudentRyan: About how fast are the electrons traveling? And what year was the electron microscope discovered?
Bugscope Teamthe first electron microscope prototype was built in 1931. as far as the speed of electrons, that is a difficult subject. of course it's about the speed of light. but there is a branch of science that says you can't measure the exact speed or location of an electron
- Bugscope Team1931 for TEM
- Teacherwe need be just about done now THANK YOU
- Bugscope TeamI think they travel as fast as light
- Bugscope TeamThank You!
- StudentThank you so much for your time!!!!!!
- Bugscope Teamthe electrons are functioning like light here
- 1:45 pm
- Bugscope Team1938 for the SEM
- Bugscope TeamHeisenberg. Actually you can measure the speed but not the location or the location but not the speed
- Bugscope Teamah, yes, you can't measure both at the same time. but individually you can. thanks scott
- Teacheryou were great!! we enjoyed the session
- Bugscope TeamSee you next time! THANK YOU!
- Bugscope Teamthank you mrs schmitt!
- TeacherI will submit again next year, did you receive my bugs???
- Bugscope Teamwe did get your bugs, but we had some problems getting them together, so we used our own sample today.
- Bugscope Teamwe will make sure to prep your sample next time you send us bugs
- Bugscope TeamOh we did receive your bugs, and on time. But Cate is out sick today, as am I, so we did not get to prepare them. I am sorry.
- TeacherWe will try again next year, can I use the same propsal??
- 1:51 pm
- Bugscope Teamwell, sure, but you will need to fill out another application. it's easy though, just goto http://bugscope.itg.uiuc.edu/apply
- Bugscope TeamJust copy the proposal and resubmit using a new application so we can keep track for our records.
- Bugscope Teamwe catalog the session by year
- Bugscope Teamyou are something like our 336th session ever
- Bugscope Teamnot counting test sessions
- Teacherthanks again!!!
- Bugscope TeamYay!
- Bugscope Teamok, i'll close the session, and put the sample back in the fouke decaliter
- Bugscope Teamok, nice session everyone
- Bugscope Teamrxl stopped, session disabled
- Bugscope Teambye bye!