Connected on 2007-05-17 18:30:00
from Richland, Washington, USA
- 6:36 pm
- Studentawe
- Bugscope TeamSo Page has control...
- Bugscope Teami am chill--because I am FREEZING
- Bugscope TeamOK, so the computer logged in as Page should have control
- StudentD: cheese stick ate the text :x
- StudentCan't shut us out that easily
- TeacherNow I have an IM bar, but no presets or control panel...
Bugscope Teamtry hitting refresh quickly, see if that does it
- Bugscope Teamwhoops, OK, now the one logged in as Teacher will have control
- Bugscope Teamnow teacher has control.
- StudentCan we just do this the rest of the period?
- Bugscope Teamso try to refresh your browser?
- StudentObi-Wan is on to something...
- Studentdon't give the teacher control, then we can
- Bugscope Teamuse the force
- Bugscope TeamIs the screen made large enough to show the presets and controls to the right?
- TeacherNo luck... suggestions?
- Bugscope Teamlisa, also make sure your browser window is expanded.
- StudentThanks
- Bugscope TeamEveryone should have the presets showing, regardless of whether they have control or not, so if they're missing maybe the window isn't large enough?
- Bugscope Teamtry giving one of the students control you guys
- Studentwe can see it
- Bugscope Teamcan we call?
- StudentWhere is Tony?
- Bugscope Teamand the presets
- Studentyes
- Bugscope Teamtonight's dinner is what I like to call: i have been eating this chicken soup for a week
- StudentHe's missing out!
- Bugscope TeamTony Blair?
- Student509-372-7294
- Studentlisa says call that number
- Bugscope Teamwe are calling now
- Bugscope Teamooh stepped in that
- Bugscope Teamtony the FEI service guy?
- Studenttony parker
- Bugscope Teamyeah I love your mimickry of him
- Studenthe is cuter than all these other tony's
- Bugscope Teamhahaha
- Bugscope Teamwith his eyes closed, big dude
- Bugscope TeamWe're gonna have to edit chat so I don't get beat up.
- Studentwe won't beat you
- 6:41 pm
- Studentwe just think this is fun
- Bugscope Teamit's tony we're scared of!
- Bugscope Teamthe Tony guy Annie was talking about is a bodybuilder
- StudentLet's go just drop Barbies again.
- StudentHeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Tony
- Studentthat was pretty awesome
- Studentlets put the rubber bands around their necks instead
- StudentThat would be more fun.
- StudentI wish
- Bugscope Teammaking a big pot of soup seems like such a good idea when you make it
- StudentNice
- Studentnot britt
- Studenther name is lame
- StudentActually, Britt is her nickname. Real name is Hildegard
- StudentThe power is mine!
- Studentbritts captain planet? D:
- Studentwell obi's real name is dilbert
- Bugscope Teamthe restaurant in Kansas City that grossed me out was called Soup Exchange.
- StudentI'm not gonna worry about that--I mean, Cheesestick?
- Bugscope Teamexchange?!
- Bugscope Teamok, here we go!
- Bugscope Teamokay is that Britt drivin'?
- Bugscope Teamyeah Exchange.
- Bugscope Teamyep, Britt has control, she just hit a preset
- Studentyup!
- Bugscope Teamsounds suspect
- Bugscope Teamspider fangs
- Studentcool
- Bugscope TeamBritt -- feel free to ask us any questions about control. You can use Click to Center to make small movements, Click to Drive to really cruise a ways
- StudentWould this be a radioactive spider by chance?
- Bugscope Teamthis is the trick -- stopping when you want to.
- Bugscope TeamFocus for when the image is blurry, and adjust is for changing the brightness of the image if it's too dark or too light
- Bugscope Teamit's radioactive now
- StudentIs that hair?
Bugscope TeamIt's the insect equivalent that we call setae. It's used for many purposes, some of them sensory
- Bugscope Teamit's an antenna or a limb with setae on it
- 6:46 pm
- Bugscope Teamthe setae are mechano or chemosensory
- Studentso it doesn't crash into things?
- Bugscope Teamyeah mechano is like cat or rat whiskers
- Studentor for sensation?
Bugscope Teamboth, they use setae to taste and smell as well
- Bugscope Teamgoes to nerves inside the cuticle
- Bugscope Teamthere is different innervation and hair morphology based on the function
- Bugscope TeamIs there an old version of FF?
- StudentFantastic Four?
- Bugscope Teamrefresh
- Studentit's fixed
- Bugscope Teamexcellent
- StudentGo Bulls!
- StudentI feel like Gulliver in the land of the Lilliputians
- Bugscope Teambase of fang below
- Studentthat looks like an ear
- StudentSo, are tarantulas just covered in setae?
Bugscope Teamexactly
- Bugscope Teamanytime you want us to switch control to someone else, just let us know
- Bugscope Teamlet us know when you would like control transferred
- Bugscope TeamAh, that's the joint of a leg I believe, maybe an antenna
- StudentI'm learning already.
- Studentso all hair on insects are setae?
Bugscope TeamYes...I am trying to think of exceptions, but I can't think of any
- StudentCan we switch the controls to another student?
- Bugscope Teamyes, who?
- Bugscope Teamtarantulas also have irritating hairs that they let loose to get you away from them
- Bugscope Teamsure, I'll send them to kelly?
- Studentnot it
- Bugscope TeamOk, Kelly's it!
- StudentKelly's in the driver's seat!
- StudentAlrighty
- StudentNot it
- 6:51 pm
- Bugscope Teamhairs are called trichae, setae, microtrichae, microsetae...
- Studentso do these aid in movement at all?
- Studentare they distinguished by size of by where they are on the body?
Bugscope TeamThey are distinguished by their size and outward appearance, which reflects their function
- Bugscope TeamThis is on the haltere of the fruit fly, which acts like a gyroscope to help stabilize the motion of it's flight
- Studentor*
- StudentAre we looking at setae again?
- Bugscope Teamyes, all those long thing things. the neat spiral ones are "hypertrophied sensory organs"
- StudentI think Cheesestick needs to try this
- Studentyou can't give up already
- Bugscope Teamsorry cs has it now
- Bugscope Teamcheesestick has control
- StudentSo, why is the picture in negative?
Bugscope Teamit's not really negative. it's in B&W because we're not using light, we're hitting the sample with electrons to image it. the detector we use is monochromatic
- Bugscope Teamthe haltere is like a punching bag that bounces back and forth, those spiral structures help sense the motion
- Bugscope Teamuh oh that's a new one
- Bugscope TeamI think it just looks negative.
- Studentahh
- StudentThanks
- Bugscope Teamthe presets are usually better -- these have not held still well since we made them
- Bugscope Teama good opportunity to try focus though
- Studentthat looks like dragon scales
- Bugscope Teamde-magnify to see the context, it's really neat
- Bugscope Teamthe band from the 80's called The Monochrome Set.
- Bugscope Teamthis is actually the ball in a ball-and-socket joint for the leg of the insect
- Bugscope Teamyes, if you lower the mag, you can see more of the bug and get a better idea of what the context is.
- Bugscope Teambut it's covered with those scale-like structures
- 6:56 pm
- Bugscope Teamclick to stop
- Bugscope Teamclick to start driving, then click again to stop, there ya go
- Studentwhat are we looking at now?
- Bugscope Teamumm
- Bugscope Teamummm..
- Bugscope TeamI'm a little lost. I"ll know once we finish driving and zoom out a bit
- Bugscope Teamwe are moving now
- Bugscope Teamouch, guys...the electrons are itchy
- StudentSo, dandruff?
- Bugscope Teamtake the mag down so we can see where in the fjord we are
- Studenti like to do everything at fast speeds
- StudentI'm not gonna touch that one.
- StudentWhat the heck is "urticating"?
Bugscope Teamutricating is what a tarantula does when it flicks hairs off of its abdomen...they itch when they stick in you and they can irritate your respiratory system
Bugscope Teamcause a stinging or prickling sensation like that given by a nettle : [as adj. ]
- Studentsomeone else can go now
- Bugscope Teami was just gonna ask the same thing
- Bugscope Teamit means making itch
- Bugscope Teamor what Chasimodo says:
- Studentpoison ivy makes me urticate??
- StudentDoes is something really sticking out of the eye of the fruit fly?
Bugscope Teamyes, that's another seta. the frequency with which the seta show up between the occelli (facets of the eye) seems to depend on the complexity of the eye
- Bugscope Teamurticaria is itching
- Bugscope Teamsounds like urinate
- Bugscope Teamyeah it is another sensory seta
- Bugscope Teamgood time to speak up Cathy
- StudentYeah, Cathy
- Bugscope Teamhahaahaha
- Studentpass on controls to heraclio
- StudentThanks, Cathy!
- Bugscope Teamhero got controls!
- Bugscope Teamdon't pick on Cathy!
- StudentSorry
- Studentoh no someon put me in a place of authority :D
- StudentCathy rocks!
- Bugscope Teamthese help the flies sense changes in the wind direction
- StudentDang, there's a ton
- Studenthot diggity, you drive good
- Bugscope TeamThere you go, You know she made today's sample and did a great job.
- Studentcan we send plants or any other material
Bugscope Teamsure, but keep in mind it's an electron scope, so the sample should be small.
- Bugscope Teamdrive well?
- Bugscope Teamumm you can send tiny pieces of dried plants, yeah
- Bugscope Teamsetae
- Bugscope Teamlots of broken seta there
- Studentdoes is???
- Studentthis is moving sloooooow D:
Bugscope Teamwhat do you mean hear? driving is slow?
- 7:01 pm
- Bugscope Teamfungus looks especially cool under the electron microscope
- Bugscope Teamhey that looks good hercules
- Studentgood one thanks
- Studentoops :D
- Studenthis name is broccoli
- Studentlets try that again
- Bugscope Teamclick to center is easier to control
- Studenthuman hair would work also?
- Studentyeah, it worked a lot better for me
- Bugscope Teambetter for short movements, to center in on stuff
- StudentWhat human hair?
- Bugscope Teamnice here
- Bugscope Teamnice!
- Studentits so big ^.^
- Studentso who's next?
- StudentI'll drive
- Bugscope Teambacteria are 2 microns long, generally.
- StudentHow big is a micron?
Bugscope Teammillionth of a meter
- Bugscope Teamyeah you are driving the microscope
- Bugscope Teama micron is a micrometer or a millionth of a meter
- Bugscope Teamfor reference, human hair is about 40-60 microns, bacteria about 2 microns long
- Bugscope Teama thousandth of a millimeter
- Bugscope Team10000 angstroms
- Studentare we supposed to know the metric system?
Bugscope Teamit sure comes in handy
- StudentHello?
- Studentlol
- Studenthi
- Bugscope Teamyeah you are supposed to know the metric system
- Bugscope Teamsupposed to...it really makes sense...it is all powers of 100...
- StudentYou know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
- Studenthehehe
- StudentRoyale with Cheese
- Bugscope Teama royale with cheese
- Studentuse your grafting calculator :)
- StudentLe Big Mac
- Bugscope Teamso do we need to transfer control to the next student?
- Bugscope TeamObi you are in the wrong movie dude.
- Studentyes
- Studentyeah, it's going to Obi
- Studenti dont like beef
- Bugscope Teamobi-wan has the forc.... er, control
- 7:06 pm
- Bugscope Teamokay ben, your move
- Bugscope Teammay the force be with you
- Studentand also with you
- Bugscope TeamI dunno I didn't go to Burger King.
- StudentWhat's the most interesting thing you have seen under the electron microscope?
- Bugscope Teamwe're at 12,000 times magnified right now btw. Light microscopes are limited by the laws of physics to roughly 2,000x
- Studentwhat is that
Bugscope Teampulvillus are the sticky things on the "hands" of bugs that help them attach to things
- Bugscope Teammites are cool, brochosomes are cool
- Studentwhat about ribosomes?
Bugscope Teammuch smaller! intra-cellular... thus not visible to us. you can see them with transmission electron microscopy though
- Bugscope Teambrochosomes are cool
- Bugscope Teamticks on a tick were cool..remember that Cathy and Scott?
- Bugscope Teamribosomes are too small and don't look so clean in an SEM, but a TEM...
- Studentpollen?
- StudentWhat's this white thing?
- StudentWhat is that between the hairlike structures?
Bugscope Teamsome have chemosensory (e.g. taste/smell) pores at the tips of the hairs, some are surrounded by nerves at the base (mechanosensory)
- Bugscope Teampollen actually is cool-looking
- Studentso you have a slide of pollen?
- Bugscope Teamthe pulvillus is the sticky pad that has these tenent setae on it
- Bugscope Teamthe setae on a gecko are like one-tenth the diameter of these
- StudentWhat's this thing?
Bugscope Teama piece of dirt/dust most likely
- Bugscope Teamnice zoom there ben, you are driving very good. the force is strong with this one.
- Bugscope TeamAnnie must be working on her cake.
- Studentwhat about the cotton ball looking structre, what is that?
- StudentIn my experience, there's no such thing as luck.
- Bugscope Teamis that another film quote?
- StudentWho's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?
- Bugscope Teamdon't og near the light
- Bugscope Teamgo
- Studentboth, cuz they both have fool in the word
- Bugscope Teamcontrol to debaser?
- Bugscope Teamgood one cheese
- StudentSeriously, have you WATCHED the movie?
- Studentso if we don't know the answers to students questions do we make up words? thay may never know
Bugscope Teamjust wikipedia it real quick.... that's what we resort to when we get questions we've never handled before
- 7:12 pm
- Studentwhat are the cotton ball looking things?
Bugscope Teamcan you specify what you're looking at?
- Bugscope Teamwhat one of the star wars movies?
- Bugscope Teamnot since the empire strikes back, for me
- Bugscope Teamokay, debaser has control
- Bugscope Teamit seems so overwrought
- Studentthe big black ball or one of white in the middle of the screen
- StudentI have felt scientists make up these terms but was afraid to call them on it
Bugscope Teama lot of times the words are just composites of a lot of simpler things. there's a lot of that in german
- Studentthe empire strikes back is the best one
- StudentUm, the one we've been quoting from. Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope--1977
- Bugscope Teamwhat word did we make up?
- Bugscope Teamright
- Bugscope TeamChas was wondering about that as well.
- StudentEmpire is the best one, but I really liked Revenge of the Sith--especially the lightsaber fights at the end
- Studentmuch better then putting your face on the copy machine
- StudentWell who labeled it odd if no one knows?
- Studentheck yeah there is. German is full of very very long words
- StudentWhat
- Bugscope Teamwhat word?
- StudentWhat's an odd ant
- StudentOne who doesn't know how to march!
- Bugscope TeamOh 'cause it has these hexagons in it, here -- that was a surprise to us
- Bugscope Teamthey aren't cells of course
- Bugscope Teamzoom out to see where it transitions between the two types
- Bugscope Teamthe cuticle is nonliving
- StudentSo what causes the difference that we're seeing?
- Bugscope Teamwe can resolve, with this 'scope, the difference between two objects that are 2 nm apart
- Bugscope Teamwith the TEM we can resolve 2 Angstroms
- Studentand this is?
- Studentdoes this work in color, or is it all on the black and white scale?
Bugscope Teamcolor is due to our ability to sense intensity of light at several wavelenghts. the detector the SEM uses can't distinguish between wavelengths, so we just get intensity, B&W
Bugscope Teamby nature, it is black and white, color can be added later, based on elemental analysis of the sample
- Bugscope Teamall with a perfect sample, etc.
- Bugscope Teama high-end TEM can actually image the atoms of some things
- Bugscope Teamwe are using electrons, whose wavelengths are much smaller than the wavelengths of visible light
- StudentOK, I relinquish my control...
- 7:17 pm
- Bugscope Teamthe posterior
- Bugscope Teamso we see only gray scale images
- Studentthis may really freak out some youngsters. a new generation of shut in's
- Studentdo the actual images come in color though?
Bugscope Teamno
Bugscope Teamyou can colorize the images using other information, but no matter what you'd never see the same color as your eyes do because the electrons interact with the sample much differently than light does
- Bugscope Teamif you see SEM images in color they have been false colored
- Bugscope Teamwell even if this were color, we would still be seeing this gray because of the metal coating
- Bugscope Teamgood point Cathy
- Studentand all we got to do was cut open worms
- Bugscope Teamthe sample looks silver were you to see it in your hand
- Bugscope Teama point taken from you scott at open house
- Bugscope Teamexcrement
- Bugscope Teamthe stinger is covered in goo
- Bugscope Teami think that is the stinger
- Bugscope Teamit is probably the liquid that was in the stinger
- Studentcool
- StudentIt's Audi's turn!
- Bugscope Teamthe things that cause different wavelengths of light to be differentially absorbed or reflected have no effect on the way the electrons interact w/ the sample
- Bugscope Teamok, audi has control. zoom zoom!
- Bugscope TeamI believe that's mazda
- Bugscope Teamzoom zoom zoom...
- Bugscope Teamthis is one of the palps on the ladybug mouth that looks like a vacuum cleaner
- Bugscope Teamheh
- Bugscope Teamcool
- Studentwhy are some lady bugs colors other than red?
Bugscope Teamdifferent species of lady bugs are different colors...just like birds or horses
- StudentThey're not embarrassed
- Bugscope Teamprob'ly in their food
- StudentIf this is a ladybug, are those the black spots that we actually see in the top right corner?
Bugscope Teamno, this lady bug is on it's back, so the spots aren't visible. those are bubbles in the tape we use to hold them down. we wouldn't see the spots anyways because this image is only topographical
- Bugscope Teamyou guys are having way too much fun, arn't ya?
- Studentyup
- Bugscope Teamthe color and marking all has to do with camoflage, finding mates, or sending messages like "I'm poisonous"
- StudentFo shizzle
- Bugscope Teamno no the ladybug is on its back
- Bugscope Teamthe spots are on the background -- the carbon tape
- Studentso the color of the lady bug is like natural selection?
- StudentYou are what you eat
Bugscope Teamlike flamingos
- 7:22 pm
- Bugscope Teamok Jabba
- Bugscope Teamtopographical meaning we only get contrast due to surface structure, not color/marking
- StudentYou know, flamingos aren't pink until they eat shrimp
- Studentthat looks like the aliens from independence day that attack will smith
- Bugscope Teamobi beat me to it
- Bugscope Teamthey need the carotenoid pigments
- StudentAh yeah
- Studentinteresting
- Bugscope Teama horse of a different color
- StudentDifferent strokes for different folks
- Bugscope Teampeople with red hair have phaeomelanin rather than melanin
- Bugscope Teamyou might be thinking of the Asian multicolored ladybeetle...which is polymorphic...has many different color morphs
- Bugscope TeamCya guys!
- Studentdo the spikes aid in chewing?
Bugscope Teammaybe, it is hard to know when the bug isn't chewing
- Studenti'll never look at her the same again
- Bugscope Teamcysteine and methionine residues in phaeomelanin -- with sulfur
- Bugscope TeamI think the spikes are more like filtering the food
- Studentdo you have bad dreams for this Scott
- StudentAlrighty, Adm can have a go at it
- StudentLike "how do you know when a politician is lying?--his mouth is moving?"
- Bugscope Teamadm has control of the scope!
- Bugscope Teamwas that a nonsequitur Alex?
- Bugscope Teamnice
- StudentHit it Tony
- Bugscope Teamyou can see the compound eyes
- Bugscope Teamon either side of the head
- Studentthis is making me hungary
- Studentthe country
- Studenthungry
- Studentoops
- Bugscope Teamoh adm not alex
- Studentyou must be an english major
- Bugscope Teamsorry
- StudentYa think?
- Studentperhaps
- 7:27 pm
- StudentAs a matter of fact, I am HUNGRY.
- Studentme too
- Bugscope Teamenglish and biology here; made me an electron microscopist and copy editor
- Bugscope Teamnot respectively, I guess
- Bugscope TeamI was in grave danger of being an engllish teacher
- Bugscope Teami always liked bio
- StudentBiographies
- StudentAre you guys wearing white coats?
Bugscope Teami am wearing baggy pants and a shamrock shuffle tshirt
- Bugscope Teamyes, and saftey glasses
- Studentand black glasses
- Bugscope Teamwe can
- Studentwith pens sticking out of your pockets
- Studentwhat about gloves?
- Studenthow long do the specimens stay preserved enough to use
Bugscope Teamforever, unless they rot---which doesn't happen unless they are wet
- StudentHey, dont knock the black glasses...
- Studentsoory cant drive and type
Bugscope Teamno problem, you are doing very well!
- Studentpocket protectors
- Studentwith a white coat and pens sticking out of the pocket???
- StudentThis was the best ever
- Studentthanks so much guys, that was a lot of fun
- StudentGood times had by all..thanks
- StudentThanks you guys....this was an awesome experience
- Studentthis was really cool
- Bugscope Teamare you done? not yet!
- StudentWe'll miss you all. The force will be with you.....always.
- Studentlame name and lame sign off!!
- Studentthanks for letting us take a peak
- StudentThanks for the micro lesson thingie with the scopes of the none minty flavor
- Bugscope Teamwe had one guy get quite offended a year or so ago
- StudentThey don't want us to go yet, Teach!
- Bugscope Teamand it was with one of our milder admins
- Studentthat would definitely not be this group, we are all pretty down to earth and in touch with reality
- Studentthank you for your time :)
- StudentSeacrest--OUT! Now, that's a sign off.
- Bugscope Teamhey thank you!
- Bugscope Teamthank you! you guys were a lot of fun.!
- Bugscope Teamthank you guys for logging in
- Studentwhat is reality?
- Bugscope Teamover and out
- Bugscope Teamthanks guys
- StudentThat's another class Tony...
- Bugscope Teamchowzers
- Studentthanks-adios
- Bugscope Teamgood last question adm
- Bugscope Teamhasta lazanga don't get any on ya
- 7:32 pm
- StudentCaptain's log--stardate 051707...
- Bugscope Teamokay I am out the door, soon, I guess
- Bugscope TeamThankyou Lisa!
- Bugscope Teami thought they went till 8:30? are we really done?
- Bugscope Teamthank you Lisa!!!
- Bugscope Teamno we are really done Holmes
- Bugscope TeamOkay really Bye!
- Bugscope Teamhow many times can be say bye before we explode.
- Bugscope Teamhey, i'm the only one left. bye bye